View Poll Results: The discretionary enforcement tolerance in passing lanes should be

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  • the same as everywhere else

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  • higher than the normal tolerance (eg 40%)

    60 58.25%
  • open ended - police should not enforce the speed limit n passing lanes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Perhaps when you were consulting the interweb you should have looked under discretion in the Criminal Justice system.

    There are several references to just giving a warning and not taking any action.

    Don't take this the wrong way, but should a member of the Police have to use the interweb to get clarification on this?
    The general Popo view on discretion is that it means not prosecuting.

    My personal view is that it means considering all the options, and making a subjective but balanced judgement. Of course, not everyone will agree, and if I use my discretion and write a ticket, some people will always tell me I should have used my discretion (their definition being Don't Write The Ticket), when in fact I have. The fact that it's called MY DISCRETION means that it's mine to consider and decide on.

    Semantics really. I raised it as my view tends to be different from the general one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    The general Popo view on discretion is that it means not prosecuting.

    My personal view is that it means considering all the options, and making a subjective but balanced judgement. Of course, not everyone will agree, and if I use my discretion and write a ticket, some people will always tell me I should have used my discretion (their definition being Don't Write The Ticket), when in fact I have. The fact that it's called MY DISCRETION means that it's mine to consider and decide on.

    Semantics really. I raised it as my view tends to be different from the general one.
    You wrote "Nowhere on the web" does it say anthing about discretion meaning take no action.

    I've already proved that wrong. There are indeed references to criminal law which is more relevant to your job as a police officer than your personal thoughts.

    Therefore, you are going against NZ criminal law and the police approved discretionary process by using personal feeling to give people tickets in the first instance.

    You're bleedin' nicked mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    You wrote "Nowhere on the web" does it say anthing about discretion meaning take no action.

    I've already proved that wrong. There are indeed references to criminal law which is more relevant to your job as a police officer than your personal thoughts.

    Therefore, you are going against NZ criminal law and the police approved discretionary process by using personal feeling to give people tickets in the first instance.

    You're bleedin' nicked mate!
    This could be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    This could be good
    Do you think he'll take it international?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    You wrote "Nowhere on the web" does it say anthing about discretion meaning take no action.

    I've already proved that wrong. There are indeed references to criminal law which is more relevant to your job as a police officer than your personal thoughts.

    Therefore, you are going against NZ criminal law and the police approved discretionary process by using personal feeling to give people tickets in the first instance.

    You're bleedin' nicked mate!
    Mwahsha!

    Who gives a fucj - you'll never know why/why not you got discretion.

    Anyway, it shouldn't be allowed - who made the cop judge-jury-and-executioner anyway???

    "Book 'im Danno, murder 1."
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Mwahsha!

    Who gives a fucj - you'll never know why/why not you got discretion.

    Anyway, it shouldn't be allowed - who made the cop judge-jury-and-executioner anyway???

    "Book 'im Danno, murder 1."
    Post something when you've sobered up a bit and can write coherently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Post something when you've sobered up a bit and can write coherently.
    Just trying to post in 'KB-speak', sorry.
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    Two more posts and I get a toaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Two more posts and I get a toaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    Mine must be lost in the mail.
    No, that's what you're meant to tell the cops about where you're licence is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    Mine must be lost in the mail.
    No, that's what you're meant to tell the cops about where your licence is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    The general Popo view on discretion is that it means not prosecuting.

    My personal view is that it means considering all the options, and making a subjective but balanced judgement. Of course, not everyone will agree, and if I use my discretion and write a ticket, some people will always tell me I should have used my discretion (their definition being Don't Write The Ticket), when in fact I have. The fact that it's called MY DISCRETION means that it's mine to consider and decide on.

    Semantics really. I raised it as my view tends to be different from the general one.
    Sounds like a load of crap to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearup View Post
    Sounds like a load of crap to me.
    You would know ... you're full of it ...

    Discretion is also getting a "ticket" for exceeding the posted speed limit ... rather than the 125 km/hr ... you were actually doing ...

    As opposed to no discretion .... $$$$$$$$$$$$

    YOUR choice too ... just pass the attitude test !!!! (Not always a guaranteed win) ... but at those times ... you have more to lose than GAIN ...

    Think about it ....
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    You would know ... you're full of it ...

    Discretion is also getting a "ticket" for exceeding the posted speed limit ... rather than the 125 km/hr ... you were actually doing ...

    As opposed to no discretion .... $$$$$$$$$$$$

    YOUR choice too ... just pass the attitude test !!!! (Not always a guaranteed win) ... but at those times ... you have more to lose than GAIN ...

    Think about it ....
    I suggest you look up discretion under criminal law like zedder did before you go mouthing off as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    You would know ... you're full of it ...

    Discretion is also getting a "ticket" for exceeding the posted speed limit ... rather than the 125 km/hr ... you were actually doing ...

    As opposed to no discretion .... $$$$$$$$$$$$

    YOUR choice too ... just pass the attitude test !!!! (Not always a guaranteed win) ... but at those times ... you have more to lose than GAIN ...

    Think about it ....
    Look up discretion under criminal law before you go ranting on.

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