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you could probably lower it to 50 & people will still die. There will be people who have driven that stretch for the last 40 years at the current limit & never had a problem with it.Originally Posted by renegade master
Some people are just poor drivers (despite having a licence) & will always be poor drivers, unfortunately they will kill others.
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Even more reason to go through Kaiaua instead
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From the picture in the article there have been no deaths in the 100kph zone??
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SH1 rider
I don't get their reasoning. Presumably the road is design to handle a certain speed and providing that is at or above the speed limit then the 100 k limit applies. If people are still crashing on the road even though it can handle the speeds they were traveling at then isn't it better to look for the other causes and fix those? This would also improve safety elsewhere. Doesn't lowering the speed because the driving is too poor for the road only prolong the issue? If the people are crashing because they are exceeding the existing speed limits and the road design will lowering the limit help.
BTW IMO if they do lower the limit i don't think there will be a 100k section. It will be all 80 with possibly the short 60k section.
Last edited by oneofsix; 19th September 2011 at 11:10. Reason: typo spotted (many missed)
Rocket Surgeon
Which would be why they're leaving it at 100kph ...From the picture in the article there have been no deaths in the 100kph zone??
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Damn those figures are NOT good :
HIGHWAY TOLL
* 29 fatal crashes on SH2 since 2001
* 22 people were badly injured in those accidents
* 36 other smashes resulted in serious injury to 44
Something obviously had to be done
.....then again, if they stopped handing out license's so easily and actually "taught" people to drive safely (compulsory defensive driver course's?..I dunno..just a thought) -instead of the old "there ya go...good luck out there!" system that is currently in place, we might have (Slightly!) better drivers in this country ay.
Still, its way to many deaths on that road
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What do you expect when Aucklanders spend 48 weeks of the year putting around town, and on nice straight motorways. Then every long weekend they think they are perfectly capable of driving to their batches, along roads that have corners and hills and oncoming traffic etc.
If they blocked access from the north side of the Bombay turnoff, accidents would half I reckon.
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Yep... the road definitely jumped out and ripped those poor drivers off it...
Damn car eating roads... I tell ya...
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I'm not sure myself oo6. In the article it said that lowering the speed limit was the most cost effective, therefore it's presumably the cheapest way of addressing bad road configuration or other factors.
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That bit of road has been well visited by the Yellow Paint Monster and there are double yellow lines everywhere.
A road to be avoided at the best of times, but certainly not a dangerous road. There are some dangerous drivers who use it, however...
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SH1 rider
What concerns me is that it is considered the most cost effective for that piece of road not necessarily overall, narrow focus looking only at the cheapest way to reduce accidents on that stretch of road. Also the obsession with speed and NZTA's attempts to return us to the 80k limit of old. Hence my comment about design of the road. If it is bad configuration then the limit shouldn't be 100k. I suspect it is not bad configuration but bad skills, what you will see is a shift in accident type as people doze off the road instead.
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Yep, the words cost effective certainly implies that it's a cheap fix instead of dealing with the real issues. This is the problem we get when money from traffic fines goes into a central fund and not a road safety improvement fund, it's siphoned off into other areas.
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Speed limit reduction is something that can be done. It produces a result which is quantifiable, and easily enforceable, and quite often has the added benefit of actually working, albeit with an amount of frustration and irritation to competent drivers.
Education, on the other side, is something that is harder to quantify. Firstly, a lot of the population are actually borderline retards, imbeciles and morons (these are actually legal definitions which aren't used anymore - look them up).
Therefore we have to allow for this fact. It's a sad and unfortunate but until we lose the idea that we have a god-given right to drive or ride and actually make the license very very hard to get it will continue to progress along this path.
NZTA are in an invidious position but it's not really their fault.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
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Starting to get to the point where I just unbolt the plate and run whenever I see flashing lights.
Not very grown up of me - but its turning into a bit of a joke really. I feel sorry for the police, they have gone past being "the threat" to becoming the nations housekeepers/maids.
Wouldn't surprise me if national security becomes privatized (in say 50 years time) and all the cops quit the force and join private firms where they can actually help people.
If dropping the speed limit saves lives then an autobahn would increase in death rate every year.
We are being sold statistics and swallowing it with every mouthful like bad medicine.
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