Hawke's Bay Ride Outs - is anyone there?

**bart** · 12th October 2012, 21:52

I've riden a few miles over the last 3 decades, and never had a flat on the trail. I find the secret is to run as higher pressure as you can. I often run 30psi front and back, and if you get to some slop, you can always let some out. Pinch flats are probably the most common, which are caused by not enough pressure for rocky terrain. As for nails/screws etc, you can't forsee shit like that.

What I'm getting at is you don't want to carry around all this gear that you may never use. In NZ you're never that far from civilization so you could probably ride the flat home anyway. If you run cheap crap tyres like I do, it costs bugger all to sacrafice them anyway.

In saying that, I carry all the tyre changing gear on long trips.

**NordieBoy** · 13th October 2012, 07:34

Never had a pinch flat on the motorbike. I think I ride too slow.

**XRJohnny** · 13th October 2012, 08:23

Hey Bart,
Next time you are talking to that loser, Tony Wypych, as him what its like to ride a DRZ250 with a flat tyre on the Waikaremoana Road in the middle of the night during a storm !!
Not carrying tyre change gear, is for ME , like not wearing a seatbelt in a car when . . ." just going to the shops".
But thats just me. And i,m one crazy MF.

**Night Falcon** · 13th October 2012, 08:34

Originally Posted by GSers

Here's a pic of the shoulder nearly 4 weeks after I thought they would reset it but apparently not go figure. But I have been assured that its going to be all good by months end so should be riding again for christmas. Just enough time to make a couple of small repairs to the bike and back into it. See you out there soon.
GSers

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Yikes...that shoulder looks nasty. It's amazing how over time those bones will knit back together and rebuild themselves to become better, stronger, faster

Looking forward to catching up on the trails some time !

**MXNUT** · 13th October 2012, 08:55

Originally Posted by XRJohnny

Hey Bart,
Next time you are talking to that loser, Tony Wypych, as him what its like to ride a DRZ250 with a flat tyre on the Waikaremoana Road in the middle of the night during a storm !!
Not carrying tyre change gear, is for ME , like not wearing a seatbelt in a car when . . ." just going to the shops".
But thats just me. And i,m one crazy MF.

My experiences seem to be the same Johhny. I get more that my fair share of punctures and have always run heavy duty tubes with higher tyre pressures.

I have tried to ride a bike with a flat tyre which even had 2 rimlocks on the back and got about 9 kms ( at about 30KPH ) on a gravel road before the tyre started to come off the rim.

As a consequence i carry spare tubes and tyre changing gear with me even when i go for a short local blast. A 30 minute delay is better than a puncture ending your day.

**Night Falcon** · 13th October 2012, 08:59

Originally Posted by bart

I've riden a few miles over the last 3 decades, and never had a flat on the trail....
In saying that, I carry all the tyre changing gear on long trips.

I was almost afraid to admit Ive never had a flat or had to change a tire on the trail

I salute you Bart for coming out the closet. There's no shame in never having had a flat

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

Never had a pinch flat on the motorbike. I think I ride too slow.

Can't be anything to do with speed Nordie...Bart rides hard out and he aint had one, I've got average speeds covered and you've put ya hand up for slow

maybe its just an XR6, BMW, Kwaka thing?

**GSers** · 13th October 2012, 09:30

Flat tires not a BMW thing surely, never had one touch wood in 80,000kms on or off road. I think the thing with most flats is besides things like nails is the crap that makes its way between the tube and the tire. Any crap in there will rub a hole in the tube eventually the higher the pressure the less movement there is between the tube and the tire the lower the pressure then there is heaps of movement.
When you fit tires keep eveything as clean as possible and keep the crap out and if you can, some form of seal around the valve stem.
Back in the day I used to run 6 PSI in my Landcrusier tires all day in the mud and shit and dont recall to many flat tires.
Keep it clean.

GSers

**pomgolian** · 13th October 2012, 19:03

Only ever had one flat on a 300 EXC a front compression puncture on standard tubes low pressure in the Welsh 2 day the hardest enduro i have ever done two days of flat out sections against the clock, since then always used HD tubes normal pressure nothing low and now carry standard tubes as spares. HD tubes are way to heavy-big-bulky to carry as spares.

Now i know the puncture gods are gonner punish me !!!

**That looks like fun** · 13th October 2012, 19:42

Had one puncture in a bike tyre, the Beemer picked up a nail out back of Pio Pio

No worries mate I say to myself and get out the genuine, supplied with bike, puncture repair kit

It had some funny figure 8 sorta shaped things which had gone hard and brittle plus a tube of stuff that used to be glue in it

Best of all the instructions (in tweve different languages) were written in font so small even those who didnt

go blind wouldnt be able to read them

So I scratched me head and looked around, noticed an old rusty bolt on the side of the road

Screwed it into the hole and blew the tyre up with a CO2 cannister. I then rode 5 kms down the road to a farm house to see if they had a puncture repair kit for tubeless tyres.

No such luck unfortunatly). However I spotted some 3/8 rubber tube and a pottle of PVC glue in the barn and asked if I could have some

Cut the tube into lengths, coated them with the PVC glue then used them like dog turds

(a type of repair material for tubeless tyres).
Blew the tyre up and rode home (160 kms). Checked the pressure next day and it hadnt dropped at all

I love tubeless tyres

**Waipukbiker** · 17th October 2012, 18:11

Ok peoples, 24th of Nov is a re run of the ranges road ride, hopefully will get the all the locals that missed out last time and anybody else who wants to tag along. took about 7 hrs last time which included the stop at the "Bit on the side" which consists of an amazing hunting museum, A working trebuchet, (easier to google it than try and explain) a collection of old weapons and a couple of black powder cannons (Which they fire), Cost for this is 20 bucks which gets donated to the Fred Hollows eye foundation (Bloody good cause) and we get morning tea with various goodies to nibble on.

Its a cruisy, scenic ride with photo stops. Its from the Salsbury rd intersection on Hwy 50 to the Norsewood pub and covers most of the roads west of hwy 50. Mixture of some sealed bits to twisty and hilly shingle roads, (can do without the bloody crosswinds that we got last time)

At one point we get to within a couple of kms of the Onga Onga village which has fuel plus there is fuel at Norsewood.
Allow for approx 250 kms from Salsbury rd to Norsewood.

Start time from Salsbury rd is 8am.