ACC scrutiny by founder?

[Ocean1]

I wasnt going to waste my time ....but i will answer your question.........

I didn’t ask one.

They enjoyed a life which was a lot different from the life they have now ... and they had the opportunity to buy their house at a time when , it was a little easier

Would that have anything to do with the fact that houses were half the size and a great deal less filled with expensive technology then?

Next ride , have a look at the type of bike and the demographic of the person , ( think it has been done on KB ) over 40 , kids left home , house paid off ,,,,,,, no student loan ...??? wonder why??? ( its different here , young kids 20 yr old , latest car , or bike , or a harley chop...again I wonder why ?)

Why is it automatically a good thing that kids have expensive toys? Isn’t it more important that they earned them?

And why isn’t it OK that Kiwis over 40 shouldn’t have the financial security they’ve worked most of their life for?

honestly , I don't care , I have a ho
use , new car , and a few bikes all paid for ..., and 2 healthy kids in school and , I only need to work 5 hours a day more or less .....because I was able to get on my bike and look for work , found it !!!

And before you ask , I have lived and worked in a few countries around the world so have the luxury of being able to compare , from first hand experience .....

I just think its a crying shame that a place that was a hell of a nice country , has gone to rack and ruin ......

good job , well done , pat your self on the back as you pay 600 dollars for your rego ........

Sorry you didn’t like it here. Glad you’ve found somewhere that suits you better.

I’m OK with most of my country. I ‘d like it better if there was less negativity in the face of some pretty good comparisons against other countries and a positive trend towards a definitively better standard of living.

Ill leave you to , your white middle class puritanical fantasies ...Stephen

You shouldn’t generalise. There’s nothing middle class about me, my fantasies are far from pure and there’s more than one nigger in the family woodpile.

[Brian d marge]

I didn’t ask one.

Did . about grandparents



Would that have anything to do with the fact that houses were half the size and a great deal less filled with expensive technology then?

Nope sorry nice try ,, we had the one of the first cassette recorders , a Tv and a brand new Ford escort , with the round tail lights , I hated the new car smell ..it was green
also a honda fifty , new my dad crashed it in the neighbors lawn one snowy evening ...

nice try didnt fly


Why is it automatically a good thing that kids have expensive toys? Isn’t it more important that they earned them?

Completely agree and here they do , most kids works part time , but are able to save the money as they live at home , which is very common, want sex with the current bird , stump up 5k yen for a hotel ..( awesome inside trust me ) but even if they dont , mc-cawbers principle is alive and well with most young people I know here .....

And why isn’t it OK that Kiwis over 40 shouldn’t have the financial security they’ve worked most of their life for?

never said they shouldn't , but you don't have to work all the hours that god gives you ... I work about 30 hours a week , house, car , a meal out once or twice a month and five bikes in the shed ( OK Ive puled them apart ,......) and all is paid for ,

Sorry you didn’t like it here. Glad you’ve found somewhere that suits you better.

I LOVE NZ , and would like to return , but , Because of the never had it so good apathetic , KIWI ,,,yes its the older kiwis that are/have caused ( im being careful with this phrasing ) the rot , the ones that lived through the 60 , 70 and 80s ...the ones that had free education and a state subsidized home loan the ones that cant see the rot , because of some kind of blinkers

the ones that Musnt grumble , eh


the ones that have ruined NZ ....didn't fight for the right to live in a country , that Micheal Joseph Savage dreamed of and set in motion ( i did , twice,, and with my own money , )

The poor excuses of human beings who wasted , the effort so many gave in conflicts ..

Are you getting my drift? are you getting any sense of my anger ?

Do you have any Idea , of the contempt I feel when people roll over and just accept say the increase in Rego?

Why will my children never see their grandparents , only through skype ?, why? because the standard of living is much better else where and at a million odd yen to get the family HOME to see the old folks , its only once every few years if that

why should I live away from them , why , ? because the standard of living a far better ...Health , education ( some parts , the universities are crap here) , you name it ...


Carry on , ...... NZ WAS A GREAT COUNTRY , a country I WAS PROUD to call HOME ...... ruined

each time JK , smiles at the camera ,,,,,,,,,,,,

if you don't believe me , use the Governments own sites , choose an average occupation , then have a look at the disposable income / actual income , per hours worked

I did , this morning took me an hour ... most of the basic commodities were over priced , ( electricity , 18 cents average , NZ 23 cents ..where 20 % of income ( chch nz was 30 % ) was ok , over that , stress, not my figure but the world energy associations........ and the disposable , was 2/5th of sod all ( I used a teachers salary ...or around 30 an hour )

I’m OK with most of my country. I ‘d like it better if there was less negativity in the face of some pretty good comparisons against other countries and a positive trend towards a definitively better standard of living.

I wonder where the negativity comes from, ever been poor ? I have,, you wont like it ,,,it sort of does make the emotions flow .. and causes all sorts of weird thing with society .... funny that

You shouldn’t generalise. There’s nothing middle class about me, my fantasies are far from pure and there’s more than one nigger in the family woodpile.

oh, you are middle class all right, I some how doubt you are sharing a skyline garage with half the family ........

Stephen


Challenge is open , you show me , how to work 8 hours , sleep 8 and play for 8 , ( a week ) and still have enough disposable income for a nuclear family Living in NZ .......

As for answers on how to solve it , simple , very simple , NZ actually had it right , from the end of ww2 , right up to the .....new right

and before you head down the path of the railways and import tariffs .........

[Ocean1]

Did . about grandparents

You don't read good.

But I see you're passionate about whatever it is you think, I just don't read you good either.

I simply don't agree we're worse off than we have been, over the long term. As for how much better we'd be off if M J Savage had his way: Who knows, I personally don't think he was any sort of genius wrt the means by which people gain wealth, collectively or individually.

I think you're right in that we work harder here for the same return people get in most of the rest of the OECD, I've already said that. But I think the main reason for that is the unfair trading advantage the big economies impose. There's no way, for example that my American counterpart can have earned the lifestyle he has without others having contributed to it. But as I also implied, let's not forget that NZ is far from the bottom of that pecking order.

Myopic I might be, but it's not selective, or uninformed. Put away your prejudicial generalisations for a moment and entertain the possibility that others might be a tad upset about the disparity between value earned and value recieved for reasons quite different but equally as valid as yours appear to you.

Know, also that yours isn't the first generation to blame your parents for leaving the piggy bank empty for their kids. It's as old as parents believing they were better kids than their offspring. How can either be true of every generation?

I'm OK, even if it takes 60hrs a week. I'll stay. It's my home, and if there's a chance I can contribute to nudging it in the direction I believe it should go then I'll be here to do it.