Ha! Take that Mr Smith!

[nodrog:Me]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...kes-should-pay

sigh.....

Faster bikes should have a lesser ACC levy, if you are dead you are not going to need too many ACC dollars.

[Katman]

you could even be forgiven for believing Katman is arguing against himself.

Not at all.

I have always said motorcyclists are having far too many accidents.

I have also always said that I'm fucked off with being penalised because of those motorcyclists who are repeatedly having accidents.

(And before anyone pounces on my past record - as I've said, I've had no accidents in the past 10+ years and the majority of my accidents prior to that were during my 5 years as a motorcycle courier overseas).

[5150]

So was this accident caused by a motorcyclist? Is that what my ACC levy will cover?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5690...ts-messy-slide

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...kes-should-pay

sigh.....

What a load of cunt dribble.

They always wank on about 'big bikes' etc. It's like for every cc up there's this huge magical speed increase....

Oh nice little stab there too about lane splitting....

-Indy

[bogan]

What a load of cunt dribble.

They always wank on about 'big bikes' etc. It's like for every cc up there's this huge magical speed increase....

Oh nice little stab there too about lane splitting....

-Indy

Or a magical weight increase If they are taxing heavy bikes more, surely the even heavier cars should get in on the action

Yeh that last bit showed it for what it was, jealousy, tis good to be a biker

[oneofsix]

What a load of cunt dribble.

They always wank on about 'big bikes' etc. It's like for every cc up there's this huge magical speed increase....

Oh nice little stab there too about lane splitting....

-Indy

I wonder how many accidents are down to lane splitting. From my experience less than 10%. There have been occasions where the safest place has been between the lanes.

So was this accident caused by a motorcyclist? Is that what my ACC levy will cover?

The motorcyclist should have smelt it coming I understand this sort of thing is on the advisory groups radar already.

[5150]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...kes-should-pay

sigh.....

It's funny how the writer of this article never identified him/her self. I would bet it's a local National MP under orders to justify the ACC levy spinning more b/s propaganda in our local paper. Who else would have a motive like this to write such dribble?

[Swoop]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...kes-should-pay

Threr was a lot of
If that is the standard of writing from an editor, perhaps he should head off to the UK and write for The Sun.

[Bald Eagle]

It's funny how the writer of this article never identified him/her self. I would bet it's a local National MP under orders to justify the ACC levy spinning more b/s propaganda in our local paper. Who else would have a motive like this to write such dribble?

cut and paste from ACC propaganda leaflets. Why let rational debate of all the issues get in the way of a good story. Love the quote about the increase % of m/bike accidents which completely overlooks the fact that the number of motorbikes has also increased significantly over the decades and as an accident % of total motorbike numbers the accident rate has actually decreased.

opps silly me this is the interweb and govt spin platform .

[Scuba_Steve]

It's funny how the writer of this article never identified him/her self. I would bet it's a local National MP under orders to justify the ACC levy spinning more b/s propaganda in our local paper. Who else would have a motive like this to write such dribble?

I too noticed that, unwilling to sign they're name to the absolute bullshit they spew, he too is probably one of these wankers that try & force bikes off the road with his SUV no doubt.

& surely theres someting to be done to pull the "18x more likely" BS from the ministry of transport??? It's been shown to be false how come it's still able to be used & touted as fact???

[Spearfish]

Perhaps if the protests didn't work,
rego on hold tricks didn't work,
weaving past cars at 50k faster than everything else,
tapping mirrors while filtering didn't work,
then maybe we need to resort to not falling off?

[Katman]

Love the quote about the increase % of m/bike accidents which completely overlooks the fact that the number of motorbikes has also increased significantly over the decades and as an accident % of total motorbike numbers the accident rate has actually decreased.

And still you choose to ignore the fact that while the number of registered (in the system) motorcycles has risen (due to multiple bike ownership) the number of actual motorcyclists probably hasn't risen at the same rate.

[oneofsix]

And still you choose to ignore the fact that while the number of registered (in the system) motorcycles has risen (due to multiple bike ownership) the number of actual motorcyclists probably hasn't risen at the same rate.

The number of motorcyclist will have risen but it will be hard to get a count as a number of those will be on scooters and using car licenses. The percentage of motorcyclists owning multiple bikes has probably even reduced as those on scooters are unlikely to own more than one and those taking to the bike to save on fuel costs will only own one.

[Katman]

then maybe we need to resort to not falling off?

Hey, now there's an idea.

[puddytat]

has the number of "bike accidents" changed by an equivalent amount.

Liked the Green party guy saying the roads needed to be made safer and yet their policy is to reduce spending on roads

I realise you have a problem with the Greens, but to my knowledge they were the only party that supported the use of motorcycles especially in the urban enviroment.....