XR200 tips wanted

[nzspokes]

[QUOTE=cave weta;1130167585]You asked how much power? with the PZ28 carb 20hp - with the flat slide 30mm and the performance pipe 22hp.
Here is the Forza mounts:


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Get me that price baby, im getting intrested.

[nzspokes]

Get me that price baby, im getting intrested.

Off to measure up soon. price yet?

[husaberg]

Well I got me a 82 XR200. Its a bit in bits right now. But i dont think its far from running. I need brake/clutch levers, kick start, clutch cable plus a few other bits and bobs. But the motor supposedly had a rebuild not long before it got parked up. Its got s 230 kit fitted so should go ok.

Any other things I can do to it while its in bits to help haul my 100kgs about?

Can you get old sticker kits for them?

Going to re-oil the fork, I believe the rear shock is serviceable? Its got a XR250 rear spring. Not sure if thats a good thing.

But it seems to be an honest bike. Gunna be fun when its going.

The RE/RF 250 forks go in (With the Yokes) and have disks and better forks and yes the shock can be rebuilt.
Unlike the later models.
Finding a re or RF front end shouldn't be a problem as the engines in them were trouble.
I will post some info later. Later USD forks are also possible.
They are a real good old school dirt bikes.
Real easy to ride and as long as the oil is changed they last well.
They have a few well know issues with the kick start and some other problems if the oil changes are not done regular.
There are few tuning tricks with these but it is best to keep it simple. if you need something a lot faster.
Then you should really get a faster later model bike.

Agreed with the others about the cr125 or similar conversion.
They are one of Honda's all time best bikes.
A real future cult bike and a practical all rounder capable of embarrassing some far more costly bikes.

[nzspokes]

Well it looks like the Forza motor may well fit. Measurements look right.

[nzspokes]

They have a few well know issues with the kick start and some other problems if the oil changes are not done regular.

My guess that is whats wrong with mine, hope to strip motor tonight.

[husaberg]

My guess that is whats wrong with mine, hope to strip motor tonight.

I would sugest you get a Hayes/clymer or similar Manual Or use YouTube. Put this and a couple of tools for Mag and Oil filter. There is stuff on the net of how to bodge one out of a socket or similar. If needed a good sites if you do decide to tune it, is this one.

http://vincentcrabtree.co.uk/XR200.aspx

http://justxr.com/jh_info/xr200_2.html

http://www.powroll.com/P_HONDA_XR200.htm

http://webcamshafts.com/mobile/motor...)_sohc_2v.html

Tools or bodge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBIXNtwBgI

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrow7YjUSbA

But get a tool and you can keep it for life.

PS It would be cheaper but not as much fun to buy a Chinese motor.

Below the stuff available back in the day.
PS Grass Kart guys have vast experience with these motors.You don't need to spend big cash to make them fly.
BUt then you need to do the suspension to also.

[nzspokes]

Right motor out and part stripped. What I have found so far is a mark all the way round the flywheel where part of the stator housing had moved and was rubbing. Not sure this is the cause of anything but it now turns over where as before it wouldnt. And found marks on the clutch like something had been hitting it, but no matching marks on the cover. In the photo of the clutch I can move the housing around by hand as shown in the photo. Is this normal?

Also found that the inlet port and exhaust port have been ported.

The motor turns over fine now. Unsure if I should just keep stripping or not now.

[husaberg]

Right motor out and part stripped. What I have found so far is a mark all the way round the flywheel where part of the stator housing had moved and was rubbing. Not sure this is the cause of anything but it now turns over where as before it wouldnt. And found marks on the clutch like something had been hitting it, but no matching marks on the cover. In the photo of the clutch I can move the housing around by hand as shown in the photo. Is this normal?

Also found that the inlet port and exhaust port have been ported.

The motor turns over fine now. Unsure if I should just keep stripping or not now.

Stator housing Moved?
Are you sure try moving the crank at the stator.
A wiggle up and down.
I would think the crank would be more likely to move than the Stator assuming it was bolted down to the cover properly?

Sorry cant see the marks on the clutch try refitting the stator and see if it is still turning Trail and error if it is the stator I would say the mains are done which isn't that common.?I also doubt it would lock the engine.

Mismatched clutch springs to by the look of it.

What is the starter like.

What do you mean turn the housing on the clutch does the primary gear and secondary gear move to?

[nzspokes]

Stator housing Moved?
Are you sure try moving the crank at the stator.
A wiggle up and down.
I would think the crank would be more likely to move than the Stator assuming it was bolted down to the cover properly?

Sorry cant see the marks on the clutch try refitting the stator and see if it is still turning Trail and error if it is the stator I would say the mains are done which isn't that common.?

Its the part in the stator housing where the wiring comes in, part of that has moved up. I tried to show it in the photo of the inside of the housing. I cant see that being the problem though. Becuse I could turn the motor over when the clutch was applied but it would lock up with the clutch not applied.

[nzspokes]

Mismatched clutch springs to by the look of it.

What is the starter like.

Not sure about the clutch springs, is that due to color?

Starter? Kick start seems to work ok? what should I be looking for?

[husaberg]

Not sure about the clutch springs, is that due to color?

Starter? Kick start seems to work ok? what should I be looking for?

Yes They don't seem to match in the pic

[nzspokes]

Yes They don't seem to match in the pic

Is that a problem?

[husaberg]

Its the part in the stator housing where the wiring comes in, part of that has moved up. I tried to show it in the photo of the inside of the housing. I cant see that being the problem though. Becuse I could turn the motor over when the clutch was applied but it would lock up with the clutch not applied.

Sorry I was thinking you were saying it was hitting the stator on the Magnets.

[husaberg]

Is that a problem?

Not a problem if they are the same spec
But yes it is a minor issue if they are not, but it does suggest if they are mismatch some economising may have happened in a previous rebuild.

The clutch will not contact square and may judder or not operate correctly.

What is the actual problem with the motor what were the symptoms that lead you to strip it down.
The reason I ask is it is common for the Honda clutch plates to freeze together when they have been sitting for a long time.

[nzspokes]

What is the actual problem with the motor what were the symptoms that lead you to strip it down.

The motor would not kick start without the clutch being in. I had it running before but there was a banging noise from inside the motor. With the clutch off the motor would not kick start. The kick start lever would engage but not move from there. Pull the clutch and it would kick over but I didnt want it to run as major damage could follow.