Another bike shop closes

**Robert Taylor** · 2nd October 2011, 20:19

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

There lies an opportunity & point of differnence me thinks.

Spotted more than 20 years ago and exactly what Shaun had also worked out

**p.dath** · 3rd October 2011, 06:32

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Very valid point, in fact the training for suspension has changed very little if at all since I went through trade school in the 70s. It has effectively become a trade in its own right

I think a lot of people (including myself) regard suspension a black art, and best left to specialists (like yourself).

**nzspokes** · 3rd October 2011, 06:42

Originally Posted by p.dath

I think a lot of people (including myself) regard suspension a black art, and best left to specialists (like yourself).

Which is a shame. Its just a way to control oil flow to reduce movement. If you can work out a carb a shock is easy.

I had a mate with a race car that didnt understand his suspension. I drew it up as an electrical diagram (hes a sparky) and he got it right away.

Not a black art, just a bit hidden.

**BoristheBiter** · 3rd October 2011, 06:43

Originally Posted by p.dath

I think a lot of people (including myself) regard suspension a black art, and best left to specialists (like yourself).

Most definitely true in my case.

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Spotted more than 20 years ago and exactly what Shaun had also worked out

Guess my bikes will have to make the long trip down to you.
Thought that was a winner with Shaun opening a place up here.

Oh well back to the original plan.

**avgas** · 3rd October 2011, 08:41

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Which is a shame. Its just a way to control oil flow to reduce movement. If you can work out a carb a shock is easy.

I had a mate with a race car that didnt understand his suspension. I drew it up as an electrical diagram (hes a sparky) and he got it right away.

Not a black art, just a bit hidden.

Most stuff that involves specialists is.......

I get paid the big bucks because people think I am the fricken wizard of oz.
They obviously never read the book.

**FROSTY:Me** · 3rd October 2011, 15:32

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Which is a shame. Its just a way to control oil flow to reduce movement. If you can work out a carb a shock is easy.

I had a mate with a race car that didnt understand his suspension. I drew it up as an electrical diagram (hes a sparky) and he got it right away.

Not a black art, just a bit hidden.

Mon an understanding of suspension principles is actually not that hard to get. Heck If I understand it and can get a clear mental image of the mechanics ANYBODY can.
The art is where for a given application,time of year,rider weight,rider preference. etc You set up a shim stack,oil viscocity and quantity etc etc to suit perfectly and set preloads etc perfectly. THAT is an art.
Or asking a customer with little/no setup knowledge their riding style and what the bikes doing and setiing up factory stuff so it works best for that customers needs.

**Maha** · 3rd October 2011, 15:42

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Which is a shame. Its just a way to control oil flow to reduce movement. If you can work out a carb a shock is easy.

I had a mate with a race car that didnt understand his suspension. I drew it up as an electrical diagram (hes a sparky) and he got it right away.

Not a black art, just a bit hidden.

....had the same thing explained to me a couple of years ago..Graeme Crosby drew a graph and showed me (well tried to

) how it all works..he went on to say that if I had any problem just to take the bike out to him and he'll look at it..
Never felt the need to but the offer was a genuine one...
Now theres a bloke who knows a thing or two.

**merv** · 3rd October 2011, 18:00

There was one thing Croz sure did know and that was how to ride fast no matter how good the suspension was, e.g. 2 stroke Kawasakis for a start of 40 years ago.

**blackkatana** · 4th October 2011, 00:22

Sorry to hear it all turned to shit. Good luck for the future.

**Shaun** · 4th October 2011, 12:41

Just to clarify things here

My Buisness Partner 100% had the write intentions

he does not have the money due too others not paying there accounts to his buisness

I would sit down and have a beer with him still any day and are sure we will once I get my life back on track again

Again, thanks to all the well wishes, catch ya all in the soup

**javawocky** · 5th October 2011, 16:29

... Thanks for placing your card on my black gixxer, I had dreams of the suspension being sorted by one of the best right here in BB - but alas.

BTW: do you still have that video thingy you want converted that you PMed me about way back when? PM if you still want it done as I assume you are staying local ATM

Seriously hope better fortunes are ahead

**newhere** · 6th October 2011, 17:03

Originally Posted by Shaun

I entered into a buisness relationship with a man for the new shop in Auckland 742 Beach Rd Browns Bay-

THANKS TO ALL THAT HAVE BEEN CUSTOMERS

My Buisness partner was the Financuall investor in this start up buisness, and unfortunately has NO MONEY it turns out, his intensions were correct I believe.

Everything in the shop MUST be go ASAP, and there is a huge amount of work shop equipment and spare parts in there.

I have been fighting for too long now to get my life back on track after the event in 2007 and are completely burnt out now and do not have a cent to my name!!!!

So all reasnoable offers accepted

I will be there all day Saturday, come and make my day Please

MODS, If I am in the wrong thread, PLEASE HELP ME OUT AS I REALLY NEED IT, and to say this on the Internet is extremelly embarrasing

I will NOT be trying to open any motorcycle related buisness from now on, I have had enough of being a failure.

Thanks to all on this site that have helped and dealt with me over the years

Shaun Harris

Man, I am really sorry to hear that

**Shaun** · 7th October 2011, 07:36

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Spotted more than 20 years ago and exactly what Shaun had also worked out

Exactually Robert! I will also end up more up skilled in the suspension world as it is a part of Bikes that I love dealing with and take huge pride in seeing the riders smilling after alterations have been done

**Edbear** · 7th October 2011, 16:18

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Mon an understanding of suspension principles is actually not that hard to get. Heck If I understand it and can get a clear mental image of the mechanics ANYBODY can.
The art is where for a given application,time of year,rider weight,rider preference. etc You set up a shim stack,oil viscocity and quantity etc etc to suit perfectly and set preloads etc perfectly. THAT is an art.
Or asking a customer with little/no setup knowledge their riding style and what the bikes doing and setiing up factory stuff so it works best for that customers needs.

Hi mate! I gotta come over and see you sometime soon! How's biz?

Originally Posted by Shaun

Exactually Robert! I will also end up more up skilled in the suspension world as it is a part of Bikes that I love dealing with and take huge pride in seeing the riders smilling after alterations have been done

Bit like a tailor, what..?