Motorcycle Advisory Council launches new website and brand

[p.dath]

For those of you not on the MSL email list, they have created a new web site and "re-branded".

http://motonz.org.nz/

[Spearfish]

Thanks again,
I've signed up this time

[Hitcher]

I've signed up too. I'm always interested in organisations that have access to money.

[cheshirecat]

ditto

and the DOG

[Berries]

Nice to see my 30 bucks contributed to such a pretty website.

[StoneY]

Berries - your 30$ wasn't used for the website
Its paid for out of the ACC Operational budget and is not from MSL funds

The 30$ ONLY gets spent on approved projects that we believe will provide you, the stakeholder, with a measurable return on investment (eg less injuries, deaths, and safer riding environments)


I like the website, I like the logo, and the new brand
Why??? Because its true, you DO own the options and now you all have a place to go, log on, and see whats happening or submit a project for assessment

Motorcyclists Own The Options

[Ronin]

Berries - your 30$ wasn't used for the website
Its paid for out of the ACC Operational budget and is not from MSL funds

This is true and something that keeps being said. However they are using the REST of our ACC money to do it. You know, from the huge raise in fee's? So really, they are still making money on the deal.

[StoneY]

This is true and something that keeps being said. However they are using the REST of our ACC money to do it. You know, from the huge raise in fee's? So really, they are still making money on the deal.

Not sure if this is the case, the money from our rego hike goes into the motor vehicle account and does not contribute to ACC's operations budget as far as I am aware (could be wrong tho)

This sites paid for from the ops budget, I will make some inquiries as to the specific funding its paid from and get back to you, but pretty sure it is not part of your reg fee's at all

[Ronin]

Not sure if this is the case, the money from our rego hike goes into the motor vehicle account and does not contribute to ACC's operations budget as far as I am aware (could be wrong tho)

This sites paid for from the ops budget, I will make some inquiries as to the specific funding its paid from and get back to you, but pretty sure it is not part of your reg fee's at all

Semantics. Every cent that ACC has is by definition our money. Registration arguments aside, a percentage of every dollar 'earned' by ACC will go to their operational fund to cover running and administration costs.

We are all stakeholders in every gubberment department one way or another.

[Ronin]

I like this bit:

Adding a $30 Motorcycle Safety Levy (MSL) to each registration would finance the plan and, because it was paid by riders, it would be kept for our priorities.

Not quite what has been said before.

[BoristheBiter]

Not sure if this is the case, the money from our rego hike goes into the motor vehicle account and does not contribute to ACC's operations budget as far as I am aware (could be wrong tho)

This sites paid for from the ops budget, I will make some inquiries as to the specific funding its paid from and get back to you, but pretty sure it is not part of your reg fee's at all

Looks like a good website and start StoneY, i might have to eat my words.

I really don't care (where the moneys from) as I'm sure over the last 40 Years I have got back well over what I have put into the ACC.
I think we should be looking at the care we receive from the hospitals etc that is paid for by ACC, but that is a whole other thread.

[StoneY]

We are all stakeholders in every gubberment department one way or another.

This is true, but I guess other than the existence of an ACC system it is also true of any other democracy?

[Ronin]

I really don't care (where the moneys from) as I'm sure over the last 40 Years I have got back well over what I have put into the ACC.
I think we should be looking at the care we receive from the hospitals etc that is paid for by ACC, but that is a whole other thread.

Good point. I'm not arguing about the money really. I'm arguing about the spin that is put on things to make it more palatable to the masses.

To gain respect the whole thing needs to be transparent, open and honest.

It won't be.

But it should.

[warewolf]

This is such a dangerous road to take.

We should not have to fund our own road safety initiatives. If the PTB think we are that much of a risk, then they should be prioritising fixing our issues over the others. If we're not that much of a risk that they can't prioritise that way, then they should get their grubby mitts out of our pockets.

[Spearfish]

This is true, but I guess other than the existence of an ACC system it is also true of any other democracy?

Over in another KB mosh pit the idea came up of releasing coroners reports relating to bike incidents in the same way reports are published for pilots in their sites and magazine, I'm sorta tentative to suggest it, would the new web site be an appropriate place to make consensual publication available for educational purposes?

I can see some problems unless a high level of dignity and maturity isn't used including under no circumstances a "leave a message" space be provided.