Yam XJR1300 or Honda CB1300?

[Brian407]

Still struggling with the apology are you.

No need to label people assholes because they stir you a little.

We all ride bikes here.

Have absolutely no intention of apologizing for stating my opinion. You were the one that responded that opinion with flippant disregard.

However it would seem that your opinion is irrelevant now in light of the original posters last comments.

[nzspokes]

XS650's are twin, 750 and 850's are triple (had two of them) and the 1100's are inline 4. First of the 80's superbikes and the first production road bike to crack an 11 second quarter, which was big back in the day. Still pretty respectable now. Check out XS11.com if you want to know more about them.

The XJR, well mine anyway, is a helluva lot better on fuel than the XS but could probably be a little better. I average about 280-300 k's on a tank with a mix of town and open road riding, but i live in a small town so theres not a lot of stop start or slow speed stuff in traffic. Absolutely loves the open road, and corners great, but if they have a weakness it's in the front end. It could be just a little stiffer but it's hardly noticable unless your really pushing it well beyond the limits of common sense (which is quite doable, by the way). Roll on power in any gear is excellent, Open up from 50k in top gear and you could easily loose your passenger. One thing the Yammi's have got down pat is grunty, tourqy engines at low revs, so you dont need a lot of gear changing to get her howling. Brakes are Brembo's and will stop her on a sixpence from any speed. NZ new models have Ohlins shocks but be aware that the shocks on some of the Jap import ones are clones, and arent as adjustable as ridgy didg Ohlins. Still seem to work as good but just arent as adapatable to different riders and conditions.

Check out xjr1300.co.uk for plenty of good info.

Hope that helps.

Cheers. The XS may have been a 750 thinking about it. Looked like a large twin.

You think the XJR is a little soft sprung in the front? One I looked at was identical to yours apart from pack rack so it had ohlins on it.

[DR650gary]

Have absolutely no intention of apologizing for stating my opinion. You were the one that responded that opinion with flippant disregard.

However it would seem that your opinion is irrelevant now in light of the original posters last comments.

Still missing the point aren't you?

What the original poster stated has been answered by me and obviously misunderstood by you.

What he chooses to buy is his choice and I respect that. Your opinion wasn't challenged here, just the way you presented it. I don't own a ZRX but I am sure if someone stated they wouldn't give you "tuppence" for your XS11 you would not regard that as an opinion, more of a slight or insult. I respect other rider's bikes and try to only insult them face to face as unlike you, I all bikes, even crappy old ones.

I find key board warriors tiresome and I still think calling other bikers assholes is immature and not worthy of a real Southern Man

[baffa]

There's clearly not a lot to do in Invers or Levin at the moment.

I would make my decision in the saddle, not online, personally.

[DR650gary]

There's clearly not a lot to do in Invers or Levin at the moment.

I would make my decision in the saddle, not online, personally.

Is there ever?

That's what I said. Ride em. Actually ride as many as possible. Only thing I don't like is the $2k excess they sometimes stick on me. Does make me think.

Trouble is, for me anyway, I have never really ridden a bike I didn't like. Each bike has an appeal on some level.

Cheers

[nzspokes]

I would make my decision in the saddle, not online, personally.

I agree but good to talk to owners of them to find any hidden faults/issues etc. All 3 bikes seem to have good and bad points.

Test rides will be last step.

[Brian407]

Still missing the point aren't you?

What the original poster stated has been answered by me and obviously misunderstood by you.

What he chooses to buy is his choice and I respect that. Your opinion wasn't challenged here, just the way you presented it. I don't own a ZRX but I am sure if someone stated they wouldn't give you "tuppence" for your XS11 you would not regard that as an opinion, more of a slight or insult. I respect other rider's bikes and try to only insult them face to face as unlike you, I all bikes, even crappy old ones.

I find key board warriors tiresome and I still think calling other bikers assholes is immature and not worthy of a real Southern Man

What a tosser. Movin' on.

[Brian407]

Cheers. The XS may have been a 750 thinking about it. Looked like a large twin.

You think the XJR is a little soft sprung in the front? One I looked at was identical to yours apart from pack rack so it had ohlins on it.

Not so much 'soft' as a little too much fork flex at supersonic speeds. It's easily fixed with a fork brace, but unless your riding like the space shuttle then you don't need it.

[DR650gary]

What a tosser. Movin' on.

Still the personal abuse.

Are you sure you're old enough to ride a motorcycle?

[SPman]

Not so much 'soft' as a little too much fork flex at supersonic speeds. It's easily fixed with a fork brace, but unless your riding like the space shuttle then you don't need it.

Mine's re-sprung with a fork brace - seems fine at the front end now - it's the rear that gets a little squirrely - ah - just like the old days....rear shocks are Ohlins by name, but not by nature! Must fix that one day.....
Fuel consumption - I'm, lucky if I get 230km a tank - the wife's FZ1 gets better mileage.
Call it "the Warhorse" - when you're tired or weary and miles from home, load it up and it'll get you back intact, with a grin on your face.
Lot's of cheap mods can be done - I've got FJ1100 carb rubbers, 4 deg ignition advance mod and, because I like the look of the stock pipes, done the muffler rear end replacement mod, so the old girl has a bit of a bellow, these days.

[Brian407]

Interesting.. Mines stock apart from the shocks. One side leaked so i replaced them with a pair of YSS while i repaired the leak. Trouble is I never repaired the leak and still have the YSS on, and dont have any rear end trouble. Good shocks, very happy with them.

Have read about the FJ rubbers but never been tempted to change them, same with the exhaust mod, looks interesting but i dont need to make more noise for very little gain.

The 4 degree advance has piqued my interest though, what does that achieve?

[nzspokes]

Interesting.. Mines stock apart from the shocks. One side leaked so i replaced them with a pair of YSS while i repaired the leak. Trouble is I never repaired the leak and still have the YSS on, and dont have any rear end trouble. Good shocks, very happy with them.

Have read about the FJ rubbers but never been tempted to change them, same with the exhaust mod, looks interesting but i dont need to make more noise for very little gain.

The 4 degree advance has piqued my interest though, what does that achieve?

What do the FJ rubbers do? I would want mine quiet. Just listen to da birdies...

[chasio]

Just saw this: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130181705

Bit of a jaunt from you, though...

[nzspokes]

Just saw this: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130181705

Bit of a jaunt from you, though...

Thats Brian thats been on here with the XJR. Did look at that, would be interesting with better bars on it. Nice looking bike. Would be very interesting do up project. It did get me thinking.

[SPman]

What do the FJ rubbers do? I would want mine quiet. Just listen to da birdies...

The standard XJR inlet rubbers are restricted for noise and emission law purposes - they are about 26mm dia I think. The FJ rubbers are 32mm (I think). see pic for comparison - XJR on the left. They are also slightly shorter than the XJR inlets, so you have to modify the (modified) air filter housing.
Depending on your engine, and other mods that you may have, this should give you between 5-10 horsepower gain.
The ignition advancer plate lets you set the ignition 4 degrees in advance of stock, which has been retarded for emissions requirements. This puts it back to near FJ timing. a bit more oomph and runs a bit smoother as well
http://www.classicmotorcycleparts.gb...ate-1485-p.asp