Wellington: Vehicles could be banned from south coast

[buggsubique]

Don't they eat wood....?

Yeth they do...

[misterO]

IMO it would be counter productive to start pointing fingers at the 4WD community because we have much in common. They make a good ally because we both want the same thing: access. Also, they are a large and effective lobbying force against the self-righteous kill-joy green-meanies (4WD enables families/elderly/handicapped to get out and enjoy nature increasing the desire to respect/protect it, yaddah yaddah). We are under attack from the same enemy. We must all hang together or surely we shall all hang separately.

[NordieBoy]

If some people really are fucking up the place then I say they have every reason to lock it down.

No. You punish the people doing the fucking.

[NordieBoy]

usually comes down to 4WD's quite often following those same tracks & they tend to "compress" due to their weight whereas bikes tend to make many tracks & tend to "rip" Not saying this is the case here, just as general rule. "Beach buggy" type vehicles are by far the worst combining the many track & "ripping" of the bikes with the "compression" of the 4WD's.

Over the Maungatapu track, 1 4WD can do more damage to the road surface than a years bike traffic.
Even a carefully driven 4WD can sink 30cm into a clay surface that a bike would sink 3cm or so. Then it rains and those deep ruts become water channels and scour out even deeper.

But wind and rain can cause far more damage than either...

[buggsubique]

one of the appeals with two whees is accessibility. It so much more restricted for 4wds. Regardless, the fight here is between hippies, bogans and the good honest kiwi vehicle user.

[droid]

[Paul in NZ]

Basically this is theft of public land under a 'conservation' banner. Of course 'conservationists' (the moral elite) will still be able to go there but the rest of us non conservationists cant be trusted and need to be banned...... wankers....

[Paul in NZ]

Don't they eat wood....?

No - leaky buildings eat wood, thermite is a warm base layer for the winter months....

[Box'a'bits]

No - leaky buildings eat wood, thermite is a warm base layer for the winter months....

But only once...

[Scuba_Steve]

IMO it would be counter productive to start pointing fingers at the 4WD community because we have so much in common. Also, they are a large and effective lobbying force against the self-righteous kill-joy green-meanies (4WD enables families/elderly/handicapped to get out and enjoy nature increasing the desire to respect/protect it, yaddah yaddah). They make a good ally because we both want the same thing: access. We are under attack from the same enemy. We must all hang together or surely we shall all hang separately.

+1 that right there ^ join forces rather than divide to be conquered.

[buggsubique]

Basically this is theft of public land under a 'conservation' banner. Of course 'conservationists' (the moral elite) will still be able to go there but the rest of us non conservationists cant be trusted and need to be banned...... wankers....

There's miles more coastline right around Terawhiti Head that no tussock munching hippies even get near... the "wildlife" argument is so fricken hollow. Infact this entire coastline is all rock and cliff face. The hell any vehicle is going to ruin it...infact I'd say if vehicles were stopped from having access the entire coastline would change of its own accord atleast once a year.

As for baches on the coastline...I slow down past them but really, to put it in perspective, if you build a house next to an airport, you expect so see and hear planes flying aye.

rant rant rant etc.

[Shadows]

With the current mayoress it will probably happen.

Everybody should go out and punch a tree hugger each day.