CBR900RR/919RR vs SV1000S

[jafar]

Sweet as, count me in. I'm by no means a good rider so I need all the mentoring from more experienced riders that I can get.

I haven't binned a road bike yet. Several of my mates have binned bikes doing stupid shit and I don't want to end up like them so I take it easy.

You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

That is a crock of shit.
I can agree that bigger isnt always better, but to say that 250-600 is too big for most people is bullshit.

Really ??? I did qualify which 600

There is no such thing as too big/too powerful, there is ONLY such thing as not enough self control. Know your limits and ride to the, whether you're on a ginny, or a 2011 zx10r, and you will be fine.
The point of getting something a little bigger is so that you have something you can grow into, learn from, and plot your progress as a rider. theres nothing wrong with that as long as you do so sensibly.

There we will have to disagree, there is such a thing as too big/too powerful, especially in this situation. Agree totally with you on knowing your limits & self control. Also agree on getting something a little bigger.

[SMOKEU]

Really ??? I did qualify which 600



There we will have to disagree, there is such a thing as too big/too powerful, especially in this situation. Agree totally with you on knowing your limits & self control. Also agree on getting something a little bigger.

Better to have my attitude than the whole "I'm a totally awesome rider who can get my knee down on any corner and I'll beat you in a race easily because I'm so totally awesome". That kind of attitude is exactly why people end up hurting themselves on bikes, so I am always cautious, I know where my limits are, and I don't breach those limits.

I've seen too many people who think they're a much better rider than they really are end up crashing because they've pushed themselves too far. That's exactly why I admit I'm not a good rider, and have nothing to prove by showing off.

[Ender EnZed]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland.

[SMOKEU]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland.

Now that's tempting....Maybe I should try to get someone in Queenstown to go have a look at it for me.

[Fast Eddie]

I'll have a look for a front wheel off a CBR600 F2 to fit to a blade once I buy one as the 17" wheel is meant to make them less twitchy.

I wouldn't bother - ride it as Tadao Baba intended. I'm sure Honda spent millions on designing that bike its a sweet package just left alone. you can set the suspension up for your weight etc. that would prob be the best money spent. spend it with a pro though.

It handles sweet and the smaller front end makes the steering quick and its very easy to flick in 'S' bends etc.

Plus the front tyre is fatter on a wider rim, you run a 130 wide front.. if you go to a 17 you'll be using the recommended 120 wides.. that little fat front is mean man, it has so much grip up front its the back that lets you know if somethings happening and I'd rather the back tell me than the front..

if you ride it for a while and do find it too twitchy then I would rather you fitted a steering damper than lost its trade mark 16" front.. lord have mercy

[Fast Eddie]

Now that's tempting....Maybe I should try to get someone in Queenstown to go have a look at it for me.

fuck bro, if you offered him 3,500 that would be sweet bang for buck aye.. 3,500 would still save him ferry cost and petrol etc.. ooo weee

[Fast Eddie]

I'll have a look for a front wheel off a CBR600 F2 to fit to a blade once I buy one as the 17" wheel is meant to make them less twitchy.

also, think I may have touched on this point before.. the bike was thought of as twitchy and fast steering in 1993..

I think its relative and by todays standards its fine.. (was ahead of its time you see )

It'll just feel like a big cbr250r.

I think you would think it was twitchy if you went from say a 90's FZR1000 onto a blade u might think ooo that steerings a bit quick..

I dunno.. buy one and ride it first ... as you can all tell I love mine a bit too much

[tigertim20]

also, think I may have touched on this point before.. the bike was thought of as twitchy and fast steering in 1993..

I think its relative and by todays standards its fine.. (was ahead of its time you see )

It'll just feel like a big cbr250r.

I think you would think it was twitchy if you went from say a 90's FZR1000 onto a blade u might think ooo that steerings a bit quick..

I dunno.. buy one and ride it first ... as you can all tell I love mine a bit too much

so...
how much commission do you get if smokeu buys a bike?

[ducatilover]

Dunno bout that man, dampers make a helluva difference when you're at the finer edge

"Within reason"
I can understand that there are a few bikes with poor handling traits, and uber grunty later model bikes. But, if you ride it on "the finer edge" I can understand. I lack the testicular girth for that.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland.

That wins.

[SMOKEU]

What is the build quality like on those GSXR600s? I've heard it's not quite as well built as the Fireblade. Since I plan on being a poor student for the next 3 years, and because my mechanical knowledge is limited to basic servicing, I really can't afford to have something that keeps needing money spent on repairs. That GSXR600 in Queenstown looks like it's been well looked after and it's had all the expensive stuff done to it already.

One thing that put me off Suzukis is the fact that I was out for a ride on my old CBR with a mate who had a 1996 Bandit 250 when the clutch suddenly stopped working on his bike. We opened up the clutch cover on the side of the road and the actual clutch mechanism was a very thin piece of metal which had snapped. It was so thin it looked like it belonged on a cheap Chinese bike. It left the bike stranded which at the time had fewer than 15,000km on the clock. I wouldn't expect such an obvious oversight from a reputable brand.

[Fast Eddie]

so...
how much commission do you get if smokeu buys a bike?

haha you caught me.. I work for Honda..

[onearmedbandit]

Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

[SMOKEU]

Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

Is this one here http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-431024583.htm an SRAD model? I'll give the owner a ring and then I might fly to Queenstown since it's only $49 each way with Jetstar.

[Fast Eddie]

What is the build quality like on those GSXR600s? I've heard it's not quite as well built as the Fireblade. Since I plan on being a poor student for the next 3 years, and because my mechanical knowledge is limited to basic servicing, I really can't afford to have something that keeps needing money spent on repairs. That GSXR600 in Queenstown looks like it's been well looked after and it's had all the expensive stuff done to it already.

One thing that put me off Suzukis is the fact that I was out for a ride on my old CBR with a mate who had a 1996 Bandit 250 when the clutch suddenly stopped working on his bike. We opened up the clutch cover on the side of the road and the actual clutch mechanism was a very thin piece of metal which had snapped. It was so thin it looked like it belonged on a cheap Chinese bike. It left the bike stranded which at the time had fewer than 15,000km on the clock. I wouldn't expect such an obvious oversight from a reputable brand.

Tricky one.. Honda has that reputation of reliability.. probably well earned.

I do love mine alot, it needs as much maintenance as any bike though. I had to replace the cam chain this year.. 80 bucks incl gst I believe. and I change the oil and filter every 5,000 ish.. not that strict really. and I basically follow the honda service sched. have done valve clearance checks, fluid flushes etc but a good thing to note as during all this routine maintenance nothing has been out of order, the valves didnt need adjusting, the carbs were still balanced etc etc. 16" front tyres are a little tricky you don't have too much choice for cheapies. but they last longer than the rear

I'd summarize that I havent had to repair the blade and its never broken down on me yet (touch wood) but it requires routine maintenance like any bike.

[Fast Eddie]

Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

^ he knows how to ride them too! good to hear about the gearboxes, the blades gearbox has got that little rumour of being a bit weak. The engines are bulletproof though and I've had no trouble with my box yet, wheelies and amature gear shifts n all