If Labour wins the election I'll have to pay my ACC levy

**HenryDorsetCase** · 7th November 2011, 13:16

Originally Posted by banditbandit

true .. But the cost to acc of car accidents per accident outweighs the cost of bike accidents per bike accident ...

o rly??????????

**BoristheBiter** · 7th November 2011, 13:32

The only way to do it is just charge each person.
Everything will be cheaper and you have a one off yearly charge like rates.
Everything will be linked to your nhs number.

**MSTRS:Me** · 7th November 2011, 14:28

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

....
Everything will be linked to your nhs number.

Is that the number we will all have tattooed on our inner lip...

**BoristheBiter** · 7th November 2011, 14:35

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Is that the number we will all have tattooed on our inner lip...

No, The microchip in the wrist.

**davereid** · 7th November 2011, 17:45

http://www.dol.govt.nz/initiatives/w...nce-rating.pdf

Nick has lots of ideas, like introducing compulsory third party insurance, and reducing the amount paid via fuel, moving the majority of the load to a lump sum payment.

**Indiana_Jones** · 7th November 2011, 18:10

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

True .. but the cost to ACC of car accidents per accident outweighs the cost of bike accidents per bike accident ...

Hence you can apply a different rate for different vehicles with a km system. On a petrol system you couldn't.

-Indy

**MSTRS:Me** · 8th November 2011, 07:41

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

Hence you can apply a different rate for different vehicles with a km system. On a petrol system you couldn't.

-Indy

But that, right there, is the problem 'we' have with what has been going on with ACC...
From the word go, it was NEVER intended to have differential levies. Everyone was covered equally and everyone contributed equally. No swings. No slides. Just a merry-go-round.

**BoristheBiter** · 8th November 2011, 08:36

Originally Posted by MSTRS

But that, right there, is the problem 'we' have with what has been going on with ACC...
From the word go, it was NEVER intended to have differential levies. Everyone was covered equally and everyone contributed equally. No swings. No slides. Just a merry-go-round.

So again everyone gets a one off bill every year. can't be fairer than that.

**Indiana_Jones** · 8th November 2011, 09:54

Originally Posted by MSTRS

But that, right there, is the problem 'we' have with what has been going on with ACC...
From the word go, it was NEVER intended to have differential levies. Everyone was covered equally and everyone contributed equally. No swings. No slides. Just a merry-go-round.

I agree. But if they insist on different rates for different things, then do it properly. Have a no claim bonus, have better rates for more experienced people etc.

Na fuck that, just rape the bikers some more

As MIXONE said, fuck it, as long as it's cheaper to licence my car.....

-Indy

**The Pastor** · 8th November 2011, 10:01

putting on petrol is a good idea, encourages the use of fuel efficient vehicles and public transport.

**Indiana_Jones** · 8th November 2011, 10:05

See you on the bus tonight RM!

This government/country has no interest in any other form of transport apart from cars it seems.

-Indy

**oldrider** · 8th November 2011, 11:20

Originally Posted by Renegade

ACC went to the pack while it was under labours control

ACC went to the pack because it is a State owned monopoly controlled by "politicians" and is used as a political football .... period!

ACC Woodhouse version was world class! ..... The politicians of all types, simply fucked it up to suit their own political ends!

Solution: Go back to Woodhouse or go private and introduce competition!

National (Nick Smith) tried to lie their way toward the solution of going private and/or introducing competition and user choice!

Left leaning politicians will never return to Woodhouse ACC principals so I would prefer Nationals solution if it wasn't for Nick Smith!

Fuck him!

You just can't get clearly identifiable politicians these days even the so called right wing are left leaning!

Spose they have to be to please a predominately socialist electorate!

**dmc** · 8th November 2011, 16:58

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

So again everyone gets a one off bill every year. can't be fairer than that.

If you own a bike paying ACC in your fuel is the best option as the amount you pay on ACC for 1 +600cc bike will still be more than a years worth of fuel with an extra 10c a litre for ACC, on 50lt's a week for a year its $260 more in my books they way better than the levy I pay on my bike even if I don't ride it.

And the upside I can have more than one bike in the garage and not get punished.

Since its meant to be no fault insurance as people mention having a fee thats on the usage is way better and fairer in my books.

**BoristheBiter** · 8th November 2011, 19:09

Originally Posted by dmc

If you own a bike paying ACC in your fuel is the best option as the amount you pay on ACC for 1 +600cc bike will still be more than a years worth of fuel with an extra 10c a litre for ACC, on 50lt's a week for a year its $260 more in my books they way better than the levy I pay on my bike even if I don't ride it.

And the upside I can have more than one bike in the garage and not get punished.

Since its meant to be no fault insurance as people mention having a fee thats on the usage is way better and fairer in my books.

And what about the non acc paying sports, off road, cycling etc? who covers them?
My biggest claim came from running, no acc on that.

But if you want the price of fuel to go up to $10 a liter that's your call, but don't think for one minute it will be cheaper to run a vehicle.

So if you want a no fault system you bill everyone the same. then it will be cheaper to run a car or bike, petrol is cheaper and you will get more take home pay.