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    Mr Skid's weapon of mass destruction

    I've had this bike for just over a week now, so I guess I owe you bastards a review.

    The bike in question is a '02 Yamaha XT600. Don't ask for pictures, as it looks like every other one on the web. Except it's pre crashed (ex rental), so I don't have to worry about scratching the shiny bits. Which I expect to be doing off road.

    My previous bike was a triple R moto-X Spec (donor bike was a CBR250R). It was an reasonable bike when I put it around Taupo, but was too limited in it's capabilities.
    - Commuting: Inadequate low down torque, poor mirrors, poor visability and generally tiring to ride.
    - Touring: Cramped riding position and cruising around 100-110km/h equated to ~10,000rpm in top gear.
    - Sport riding: Not enough power to keep up with real sports bikes, forks would bottom out under braking.
    - Off road: 140 rear gave reasonable grip on gravel, but would spin up on wet grass. Did a good skid though.

    I was faced with the option of upgrading to another sportsbike of a larger displacement, and continuing to develop my skills on a sportsbike, or go with something capable of off road riding and develop another set of skills.

    I came up with a list that included
    Suzuki DR650, DRZ400, DR750
    Kawasaki KLX650, KLR650
    Yamaha TT600, XT600, XT400
    Honda XR600, XR400, XL650

    In the end the XT600 won out against others in my price range for a number of reasons:
    - Air cooled 600cc single. Not much to go wrong with this beast, only weird bits are a funny twin carb setup that might get binned in due course and an issue whereby the 5th gear needs to be replaced between 50k and 100k. (Had been replaced 8k ago on the bike I bought)
    - Electric start. Can't really argue with this for commuting purposes.
    - Enduro style plastics. Not alot of stuff to break when it goes down (Compared to a KLR650).
    - 15L tank. Bar the 23L tank of the KLR650 and the DR750 this has the biggest tank of the lot.
    - 2002 model. Parts will still be available, as this model revision was continued through until 2005.

    So enough about why I chose it, what's it like?

    Bloody different! The tires are a 90/90-21 front and a 120/90-17 rear. It tips in really quick, combined with wide bars I'd say it turns quicker than the 250.

    In traffic you can idle along at 2500rpm quite happily, just roll on the throttle if you want to accelerate. No need to keep tapping the gear shift.

    Very high seating position. 800mm seat by memory. Easy to see over cars, and can be ridden standing up to see further ahead. Great mirrors too.

    Droppable. It got knocked over at uni this week, and there was no damage, as it landed on the wide bars. If that happened to a faired bike, or even a naked road bike, I'd expect there to be a degree of damage. As I was I picked it up and rode way without a care in the world.

    As regards riding technique, there's so many different ways you can ride it. On a sportsbike I would hang off and stick a knee out in a corner. On this you can do anything. You can stay on the bike, you can lean into a corner, or you can stick a foot out by the front wheel Mo'Tard/enduro style.

    I've been finding myself adopting a MX style of riding whereby you lean out of the corner, sit on the high edge of the seat and move the bike under you. It seems like it shouldn't work, but I feel quite comfortable doing it on the road.
    I think it increases the lean angle required for a corner, but as your upright on the bike you can crank the throttle on and slide the back a little to get around the corner.

    So I think I've found the ultimate communter. I can't think of any bike which would do commuting better. I'd be keen to sort out a different set of carbs, lighter/less restrictive exhaust (stock unit weighs 15kg) and a bigger Acerbis tank, but it's sufficent for my use for now.

    For sports/track riding I might look at a getting a motard as well in a few years, but for now I'm happy with the XT as my scoot.
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    Nice review milfer.

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    re write up

    hey skid, nice write up, guess we will see you out our way a bit now, plenty metal back roads for you.

    oh yeah and if you feel like a challenge, go for a ride with Sudeep when he has his bros XR600, nothing like seeing that thing pass sports bikes on the open road

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    TO long to read..................... me not literate......
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    exhaust

    see peter at custom chambers.
    he did a great job on a stainless can for my vanvan!
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    2/30A Kerwyn Ave East Tamaki Auckland 0-9-274 1155
    good prices too!
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    re WMD

    durka durka
    [that's prolly a bit like what the XT feels like ]

    Did you compose this well constructed dissertation in the wee small hours because you are feeling "so ronery"? Maybe you need a montage - even Rocky had a montage.....

    I wonder if Homeland Security will be looking you up, seeing as you've gone and posted about a WMD? Oh, how WRONG they would be
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    Stock muffler only weighs 5.5kg.....
    Twin carbs work fine. Second one only comes on higher in the revs.
    Congrats on the new bike. When you coming for a Te Uku/raglan ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefight
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    oh yeah and if you feel like a challenge, go for a ride with Sudeep when he has his bros XR600, nothing like seeing that thing pass sports bikes on the open road
    ..
    It's certainly impressive how Sudeep corners that thing, especially with a full knob tire. I think it'll be a while before I'm going around the outside of sportsbikes though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badcat
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    see peter at custom chambers.
    ..
    Thanks for that Ken. I've been looking around at exhausts, and they're not that popular as aftermarket items. So far I've found out that Arrow and Staintune manufacture exhausts for the XT, but I'll check custom chambers out in due course.

    Quote Originally Posted by NhuanH
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    I wonder if Homeland Security will be looking you up, seeing as you've gone and posted about a WMD? Oh, how WRONG they would be ..
    Keep it up and we'll see what sort of destruction it can dish out onto your lawn.

    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Stock muffler only weighs 5.5kg.....
    Twin carbs work fine. Second one only comes on higher in the revs.
    Congrats on the new bike. When you coming for a Te Uku/raglan ride?
    I didn't realise that it contained 9.5kg worth of baffles.. I tried to remove the restrictor in the end of the pipe to see what difference it made, but the bolt sheared off so it's premanently derestricted.

    Motu was explaining to me about the operation of the twin carb setup. Good idea on paper, but poorly implemented I understand. I'll be keen for a ride, hopefully it'll go around gravel corners better than the last bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Skid
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    Motu was explaining to me about the operation of the twin carb setup. Good idea on paper, but poorly implemented I understand. I'll be keen for a ride, hopefully it'll go around gravel corners better than the last bike.
    L'il Ratty has that same weird carb set up, with two carbs in one. I tried to figure out how to tune it so that there wasn't a flat spot on the "overlap" but I gave up. Stupid idea, why not just have a Y manifold and a single decent sized carb ?
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    Good move Mr Skid - pre loved by many...I've known a few girls like that,and they sure are a lot of fun too.The XT600 has to be one of the most sorted bikes ever made,all the problems were way in the past,and your one at least has Yamaha's token gesture of the 5th gear oil feed,although there are XTs that have done over 100,000km without 5th gear problems - ride one for a week and everyone you meet says don't lug it in top.Mine has done 60,000km,I'll find out how 5th gear is when I open it up next week.The carbs are ok if they are in good cond....they are even up to performance mods like big bores,cams and exhausts without needing more than a rejet.

    The handling has no vices if used as intended - sportsbike scratching and Motocross will present a few problems,but generaly the bike just copes with whatever you want to do with it - go fast on a back road,on a gravel road,on a farm track,load it up and tour the South Island,take it to Africa,repair it with parts scavanged at the local tip,go to Uni every day and explore on weekends - it's a blunt tool,but with a bit of effort you can bend it to any task required...I reckon you'll get along just fine together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    Good move Mr Skid - pre loved by many...I've known a few girls like that,and they sure are a lot of fun too.
    Hey Motu.....I resemble that statement!

    Rhys, glad that you are up and running again.
    Remember, next time you want to put on a dress you can come riding with the WIMA gals!
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    Seems like an obvious upgrade from a CBR Good choice, nice lookin bike and I assume like most single cylinder 4 strokes would be very nice to ride

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    I want a pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Twin carbs work fine. Second one only comes on higher in the revs.
    Same Tekki carbs on the Nordie.

    Oh for a Y manifold and a 36mm flatslide

    The choke carb thingy comes in at about 4700rpm on my bikes according to the dyno graph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyloo
    Hey Motu.....I resemble that statement!

    Rhys, glad that you are up and running again.
    Remember, next time you want to put on a dress you can come riding with the WIMA gals!
    Luce
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    Are you saying you aren't as much fun as Motu suggests?

    The question is, would I wear the dress inside, or outside my boots? Or would I need gaiters? I believe SpeedMedic has some nice a-line numbers I could borrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by alarumba
    Seems like an obvious upgrade from a CBR Good choice, nice lookin bike and I assume like most single cylinder 4 strokes would be very nice to ride
    Don't get me started on how shit 250 multi's are.

    It's got a counter balancer thingy that kills most of the vibrations. You still know you're riding a motorbike in the traditional sense, as opposed to something smooth like a inline four. There's the option of ringing the snot out of it and have a good time, but still have a very non agressive ride if that's the mood your in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawagreen
    I want a pic.
    Sod off! Na, I'll sort something out eventually.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy
    Same Tekki carbs on the Nordie.

    Oh for a Y manifold and a 36mm flatslide

    The choke carb thingy comes in at about 4700rpm on my bikes according to the dyno graph.
    I've read of people having success putting a set of carbs from a gpx250 onto these engines.
    Do you mean the diaphram carb comes in at 4700rpm? I've just finished putting it back together after having a look at the carbs. It appears there is a screw to adjust at what throttle opening the second carb starts to open.. Might have a play with that at some point (when I've got the time and money to fix the bits I'll break).
    We're all fucked. I'm fucked. You're fucked. The whole department is fucked. It's the biggest cock-up ever. We're all completely fucked.
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