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Thread: We are the prey of the "I did not see you" and this will never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    It's not just motorcycles, people are constantly pulling out in front of all manner of vehicles, especially trucks! (I drove trucks for many years). However it is the vulnerability of bike riders that makes it so deadly. Bikes can be hidden by mirrors, door pillars, the driver's hand if he's shielding his eyes from the sun, or pretty much anything bigger than a matchbox.

    Having a sizeable cruiser with three headlights plus running lights certainly minimized the chance of being missed, but I still had close calls as many drivers also lack the ability to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles.
    The thing to remember is that people in cars don't take driving seriously. They don't realise that piloting 1 tonne of steel and glass at 15 - 30 m per second in crowded conditions takes skill and concentration. They are comfortable, relaxed and enjoying the music, conversation or that tasty pie they just bought. Or they're more interested in what's for dinner or their GST returns than driving, so they don't pay attention and people get killed and injured.
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    So sad to read/hear of another biker down

    condolences to his family and friends (Frosty...Im so sorry about the lose of your mate)

    R.I.P, ride in paradise Blair, Get that Guzzi roaring up to the gates mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    I thought that would be the case with my BMW, 2 spots on low plus bright main beam and the bike is massive... Turning right through a traffic light controlled intersection a car turning left into the same street from a Give Way simply failed to Give Way. They stopped, looked for oncoming vehicles (I was half way through the intersection - middle of the day, sunny btw) then pulled out as I was almost on top of them. Hauled the bike up (ABS and linked brakes are useful) then sat on my horn.

    Some people really shouldn't be allowed on the roads was all I could conclude.
    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    The thing to remember is that people in cars don't take driving seriously. They don't realise that piloting 1 tonne of steel and glass at 15 - 30 m per second in crowded conditions takes skill and concentration. They are comfortable, relaxed and enjoying the music, conversation or that tasty pie they just bought. Or they're more interested in what's for dinner or their GST returns than driving, so they don't pay attention and people get killed and injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    What are you, a cop?
    Mate of mine is in the force, gave me a ticket book and his badge number. I just write down the rego, time and place etc and he fills in the rest. "Safer communities together" and all that.

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    I've not read any of this thread beyond the original post...

    Any unforseen death is sad and tragic and no matter how the death occured it should never be trivilsed.


    Today, I almost collided with a cute little red sports car, and why? Because I didn't see it. Why did I not see it? I have no idea, but thankfully at the last minute it was within my vision.

    It happens...just because he's a politician means nawt...being a motorcycle means nowt. It happens, every day in cities all over the world people just don't see stuff.

    Why? God's big plan? Who knows but one thing I do know, is that we have no right to judge another for we are human and we fuck it up more than once in our lives. The thing to learn from this is not to rise to anger but to raise our awareness for ourselves and appreciate what you have, where you're at, for you to may not see something tomorrow.

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    Hey folks. Im reading the vitorol here coming from both points of view. Please before commenting on THIS SPECIFIC CASE go to the crash site yourselves or at least google it or try looking it up on wises. It is/was an utter prick of a corner/intersection. It is/was ALWAYS a blind corner for those on the main road and is/was ALWAYS a reallly difficult road to pull out of due to the self same visibility issue.
    Now its become a bit of a backwater rather than the main arterial route it was when Blair was killed.
    Im not defending the driver in any way. but it really was an accident waiting to happen. I'd actually be interested in how many injury accidents happened at that self same spot.

    Now Generically guys again Just think a bit about this rather than all the bluster and bravado.
    Why should we ride like cagers are blind idiots?
    the answer is REALLY simple.
    FUCK THEM--I WANT TO GO HOME TO MY WIFE AND KIDS TONIGHT.
    So if I have to ride in a way that saves MY life then I'm gonna do just that.
    If It means I'm "allowing" cagers to drive like idiots. Hey I'm gonna live with that because I'm alive and unhurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    I've not read any of this thread beyond the original post...

    Any unforseen death is sad and tragic and no more matter how the death occured it should never be trivilsed.


    Today, I almost collided with a cute little red sports car, and why? Because I didn't see it. Why did I not see it? I have no idea, but thankfully at the last minute it was within my vision.

    It happens...just because he's a politician means nawt...being a motorcycle means nowt. It happens, every day in cities all over the world people just don't see stuff.

    Why? God's big plan? Who knows but one thing I do know, is that we have no right to judge another for we are human and we fuck it up more than once in our lives. The thing to learn from this is not to rise to anger but to raise our awareness for ourselves and appreciate what you have, where you're at, for you to may not see something tomorrow.
    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Hey folks. Im reading the vitorol here coming from both points of view. Please before commenting on THIS SPECIFIC CASE go to the crash site yourselves or at least google it or try looking it up on wises. It is/was an utter prick of a corner/intersection. It is/was ALWAYS a blind corner for those on the main road and is/was ALWAYS a reallly difficult road to pull out of due to the self same visibility issue.
    Now its become a bit of a backwater rather than the main arterial route it was when Blair was killed.
    Im not defending the driver in any way. but it really was an accident waiting to happen. I'd actually be interested in how many injury accidents happened at that self same spot.

    Now Generically guys again Just think a bit about this rather than all the bluster and bravado.
    Why should we ride like cagers are blind idiots?
    the answer is REALLY simple.
    FUCK THEM--I WANT TO GO HOME TO MY WIFE AND KIDS TONIGHT.
    So if I have to ride in a way that saves MY life then I'm gonna do just that.
    If It means I'm "allowing" cagers to drive like idiots. Hey I'm gonna live with that because I'm alive and unhurt.
    Amen to that...
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    Me and a mate were out riding , car turned right almost taking out me mate.He spun around and followed car into carpark.Driver got out and "sorry didnt see you".Mate then droped trousers and pissed over car and "sorry didnt see your car there".Funny thing was the stunned bloke said "your standing right in front of it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsasuper View Post
    Me and a mate were out riding , car turned right almost taking out me mate.He spun around and followed car into carpark.Driver got out and "sorry didnt see you".Mate then droped trousers and pissed over car and "sorry didnt see your car there".Funny thing was the stunned bloke said "your standing right in front of it"
    That is funny.

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    20k reparation?! Just 20k?!

    And there's only one side of the story we're hearing - the defendant's. How do we know that that's truth - that he'd stopped at the stop sign and that he'd looked before moving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigadee View Post
    20k reparation?! Just 20k?!

    And there's only one side of the story we're hearing - the defendant's. How do we know that that's truth - that he'd stopped at the stop sign and that he'd looked before moving?
    How do we know it's the truth, umm lets see;

    from his lawyer;
    His view of the on-coming traffic was obscured by long grass on the road-side and there was "a possibility" that Titmus had accelerated once he saw Flaunty moving out into the intersection, he said.
    I really like the blame the victim bit. Stop in a position where you can see the way is clear and ensure it is, don't blame the grass.

    If a conviction was entered, Flaunty would be forced to resign from sitting on the Health Practitioners Disciplinary Tribunal.
    She rejected his application for a discharge without conviction saying his seat on the Health Practitioners Disciplinary Tribunal was part time and he would be able to serve the community in other ways.
    What was his real concern, the victim or his ego?

    Judge Sinclair read a list of mayors, chief executives, politicians and community leaders who had provided her with glowing references for Flaunty.
    Well I do so hope Mr Flaunty is so upset that he has talked to all his mayoral friends about maintaining clear views at intersections.

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    Biker Accidents?

    Here in the U.S. its even worse...Bikers die here most every day and its just an accident... So people ride like your life depended on it cuz it does...

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    I had a brand new Hyosung GV250, which was an awesome bike, i did a lot of long distance riding on that, the longest trip was from Hamilton - Kerikeri, and also another trip from hamilton - Hastings...I had lots of fun on that, but that came to an untimely death, and also it was my only ever serious accident, when in August 31 2010, a car didn't give way to me & turned into a side road, right infront of me, and i t-boned the car doing about 65Km/Hr, which i blacked out when my bike hit the car, i flew over the car and then i woke up facedown on the road, which was about 9-10 metres away from where i hit the car, thankfully i wasn't seriously hurt, (I can still say i have never had a broken bone), i got a gash on my left knee, and also pulled the Crutia ligaments on both my knees, my left being the worst. so about 2 months after that, i bought a car, but i am very keen to get another bike, when i can save up enough money

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