Why can't I turn right?

[Crasherfromwayback]

You don't need a beach. Thats the uninformed thinking and judging by the input mostly by road riders that know jack shit.
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. "He", is taking issue with it not being legal, not that beaches are a waste of time for practising.
The aggressive response is because too many people, knowingly or not, ride on these beaches, get caught and can contribute to more riding areas being shut down.

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Maybe you should read his response again. I don't see any mention of legality...do you? What I see...is an agressive answer that is out of line.

[White trash]

It also implies that road riders know jack shit when it comes to offroad riding. Fucken tar babies, they should just stay in the onroad section where them and their poofy looking leathers belong.

Except for the fact that a good number of "road riders" are actually quite accomplished off road riders. Sloan Frost, Johnny Burkart, Craig Shirriffs, even (dare I say it) that raving poofter Pete McDonald........ But yeah, they know jack shit.

[scott411]

It also implies that road riders know jack shit when it comes to offroad riding. Fucken tar babies, they should just stay in the onroad section where them and their poofy looking leathers belong.

Except for the fact that a good number of "road riders" are actually quite accomplished off road riders. Sloan Frost, Johnny Burkart, Craig Shirriffs, even (dare I say it) that raving poofter Pete McDonald........ But yeah, they know jack shit.

they are still dirt riders that just have decided to kick tar babies asses,

except Craig, he's gay and not really that good of a dirt rider, you can keep him as a road racer

[Crasherfromwayback]

go easy, sounds more like a person that has issues with people breaking into a part of the beach you are not aloud to ride on,

Might want to say that then...rather than what was said. Pity you guys then...we're allowed to ride on beaches down this way.

[White trash]

except Craig, he's gay and not really that good of a dirt rider, you can keep him as a road racer

But he spends sooooo much time on the GSXR in the sand, you'd think he'd be a fucken pro.

[scott411]

But he spends sooooo much time on the GSXR in the sand, you'd think he'd be a fucken pro.

fair point, I have not really looked into wether he turns left or right in the sand before he lays it over tho, so not sure if its really on the point of this thread

[Jay GTI]

Back on topic, there's a figure 8 track out at kimmies. There's also plenty of tracks at the sandpit which have many little bermed corners, which are great for building cornering confidence. Although, the main thing is to actually practice what you want to get better at, instead of just going out and riding.

Ah, planning on going tio Kimmy's next weekend, haven't been there for years and didn't know about the figure 8 track... and agree completely that the Sandpit has plenty of little bermed up corners, been there a lot already this year and I have improved greatly over the last 6 months or so... on little bermed up corners. I just need fast, open corners to play on as well, which is where I was sucking big time on Sunday.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But he spends sooooo much time on the GSXR in the sand, you'd think he'd be a fucken pro.

Yeah he may as well fit the thing with knobblies and go beach racing!

[Jay GTI]

go easy, sounds more like a person that has issues with people breaking into a part of the beach you are not aloud to ride on,

Yeah I know "He", or rather Tony, has real issues with wank stains regularly breaking into The Sandpit, riding the wrong way, making their own trails, hitting the beach, riding up at the bombing range and generally making his life unecessarily difficult (all that shit goes straight back to him), when for $25 they could do all the riding they wanted completely legally. Which is why I would now only beach ride if it was 100% legal (and legal for me to fang about, not just potter about at 50kph).

the old car park at woodhill is a good place, you can make a figure 8 track there and learn alot, the is a very good small loop just to the super bowl side which would be good as well

That is true, could make my own inside the old learners loop by the carpark, good idea....

[Ktmboy]

"He" may want to tell the great Brad Lackey that he's full of shit then. Here's a wee pic or two of Brad and Jimmy Weinert "practicing" the art of cornering both left and right...on SAND! Something the man himself highly recommends.

So as good as he may be...he ain't no Brad Lackey. Just someone that thinks he is the only one worth listening to. Which makes him a full of himself tossbag.

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Touchy touchy... I'm not going to get into a personal attack as I don't know you for a bar of soap. But maybe you should try reading what was actually written. Get your facts right.
Did i ever say I was the only one worth listening to?
Did I say don't go onto the beach?
Did I say sand was not the ideal place to do figure 8's etc.
Answer NO
What I did say was "You don't need a beach.
And its true. If he's riding/cornering better in one direction than the other then what is riding on a beach going to do? He is still going to be making the same errors and riding on sand ain't going to fix that is it?
What is going to fix it IMO (as I know nothing) is someone watching him ride and instructing him correctly.

The OP is now probably confused to hell now because the "uninformed" as I put them are offering 1500 different bits of advice and not all of it correct.
If you want to continue the childish name calling, go ahead.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You don't need a beach. Thats the uninformed thinking and judging by the input mostly by road riders that know jack shit.
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I'd have to say that looks like you saying I know jack shit right?

Touchy touchy... I'm not going to get into a personal attack as I don't know you for a bar of soap. But maybe you should try reading what was actually written. Get your facts right.


The OP is now probably confused to hell now because the "uninformed" as I put them are offering 1500 different bits of advice and not all of it correct.
If you want to continue the childish name calling, go ahead.

Maybe you should think a bit more before posting?

And if the OP is gonna get confused by people opinions on things...maybe he should ask?? But he did...as I assume he's keen to learn?

Any maybe, just maybe, the ones you think "uniformed" could know more than you think, and dare I say it, be handy on a bike to boot.

My take on a beach is this. It's wide open...nothing solid to hit when/if it goes wrong. The surface is always consistant (which is handy when trying to work on things.One less variant). You have as much room as you need to go as fast/slow as you want. The final thing is this. Ever noticed how a shitload of the worlds best Mxers come from places that have a lot of sand tracks? If you can ride well in sand, you can generally ride pretty well on any given surface.

[barty5]

Maybe you should think a bit more before posting?

Ever noticed how a shitload of the worlds best Mxers come from places that have a lot of sand tracks? If you can ride well in sand, you can generally ride pretty well on any given surface.

Some should take their own advise if you had read other posts or looked at tony's profile you might have noticed what he dose http://www.thesandpit.co.nz/ just maybe he may well know what he is talking about ????????????

[Crasherfromwayback]

Some should take their own advise if you had read other posts or looked at tony's profile you might have noticed what he dose http://www.thesandpit.co.nz/ just maybe he may well know what he is talking about ????????????

Someone should stop licking Tony's arse. I was told yesterday by Scott Wilkins who he was actually mate...doesn't change my opinions or what I think of his "jack shit" comment.

[CHOPPA]

they are still dirt riders that just have decided to kick tar babies asses,

except Craig, he's gay and not really that good of a dirt rider, you can keep him as a road racer

Well put there Scotty! haha

I havnt read the whole thread but it looks like its turning into a good road vs dirt debate so ill back both sides until someone gets pissed off...

I have seen most of the guys that post in this offroad forum ride and I wouldnt be taking any advice from them, go see DK, Broxy or my pick of the bunch Nicky Urwin. Money well spent.

Speaking of Beach racing or the Whangarei Dash for cash for that matter, anyone own this and wanna let me ride it??? Ill bring home the loot!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=419541235

[CHOPPA]

I'd have to say that looks like you saying I know jack shit right?



Maybe you should think a bit more before posting?

And if the OP is gonna get confused by people opinions on things...maybe he should ask?? But he did...as I assume he's keen to learn?

Any maybe, just maybe, the ones you think "uniformed" could know more than you think, and dare I say it, be handy on a bike to boot.

My take on a beach is this. It's wide open...nothing solid to hit when/if it goes wrong. The surface is always consistant (which is handy when trying to work on things.One less variant). You have as much room as you need to go as fast/slow as you want. The final thing is this. Ever noticed how a shitload of the worlds best Mxers come from places that have a lot of sand tracks? If you can ride well in sand, you can generally ride pretty well on any given surface.

Sand is great to practice on. Barrel racing on the beach would be great for learning turning and bike control.

Belgium has lots of sand tracks.....

BT, Coops, S King, Saunders, Broxy etc etc etc all used to practice on the sand track at the Mount a few times a week. If you could ride that track fast your good, if you could ride it fast for 20 mins you were the man