FYI - MOTO NZ impending RFP

[swbarnett]

Nope, I've heard of two cops hit by cars. One was sideswiped, the driver didn't even realise they'd brushed against the bike (luckily he wasn't taken out) until the bike was behind with flashing blue and reds. Another was taken out I think, by a smidsy lane changing.

There will always be some drivers that won't see anything*. I do wonder if the SMIDSY rate for cops is lower than mere mortals.

Oh, and this one time, there was a tree, but it didn't like bikers I hear.

Was that the one that keeps jumping in front of cars (and bikes it seems)?



*A driver in front of me on the way home today tried to change lanes into another car. The worst of it was that the other driver just ignored them - no evasive action and no horn. They swerved back when I sounded my horn. I honestly think they would've collided if I hadn't

[swbarnett]

My old GS1100GK has a biggish barn door fairing, panniers and top box, and the two (fairly large) front indicators have dual filament bulbs, like a stop/tail light, so they are on all the time as running lights.
The whole thing tends to appear, at first glance, like a cop bike, plus I tend to use a plain white helmet.
I did notice cars would move over a bit when I approached from behind. Threat perception?

They sure dont do that when I'm on the KLR.

Similarly with my Katana. While lane splitting on the Auckland motorway most drivers actually move over to let me through. Could be the full fairing all in black, three black Givis and hazards lights. Could also be the Yoshi, I'm told I can be heard coming from a mile off.

[Flip]

I used to have a real old school matt black shovel with semi apes, it used to part the traffic like Moses parting the red sea. I fixed a girlfriends Vespa and took it for a road test, in 5 miles I had 3 smidnsy's fail to give way and otherwise cut me off. I don't know how you "non biker" types stay on the road.

[Fast Eddie]

oh man, compulsary hi-viz? everyone on bikes would look so gay...
can't they just give us flashing lights like on an aeroplane. couple that flash at intervals. at various points.

[Kickaha]

oh man, compulsary hi-viz? everyone on bikes would look so gay...

You ride a Honda so you already look gay

[Luckylegs]

oh man, compulsary hi-viz? everyone on bikes would look so gay...
can't they just give us flashing lights like on an aeroplane. couple that flash at intervals. at various points.

Imagine how far you could travel between said intervals.

[Fast Eddie]

You ride a Honda so you already look gay

then you can understand why I can't afford to add a hi-viz to the mix. Mrs would leave me for sure.

[Fast Eddie]

Imagine how far you could travel between said intervals.

Done.

[Luckylegs]

Imagine how far you could travel between said intervals.

Done.

You missed the point huh?

...maybe your username might be better suited to just "eddie" eh?

[Kickaha]

You missed the point huh?

...maybe your username might be better suited to just "eddie" eh?

You'll have to excuse him, he is university educated

[Headbanger]

Go to a building site - every man and his dogs wears hi-vis - after a while you just don't see it

well, you do, but only if you are looking for them.

This just reinforces what has already been said, But when you are on a site try and do a head count, very easy when people are in vests,even over large distances or on busy cluttered sites, then try the same in a populated area of non-hi-vis-wearing-persons....damn near impossible.

But, if you ain't already looking for a specific item (be it a person or a person on a bike) then its entirely pointless.

[Swoop]

Seriously. Why the fuck are this crowd wasting time and resources on fucking fluoro vests?

Spend the money by providing FREE California Superbike School level 1 training for ALL motorcyclists.

When are these weirdos going to pull their head out of the sand and realise that EDUCATION is the key?

[Katman]

When are these weirdos going to pull their head out of the sand and realise that EDUCATION is the key?

When are motorcyclists going to pull their heads out of the sand and realise that only when we look at addressing our own vulnerability and culpability will we see any improvement for our cause.

Whether or not it is too late to escape the clutches of compulsory hi-viz is yet to be seen.

If we continue to crash into other vehicles at the rate we are we can kiss our fashionable black goodbye.

[Katman]

It's like the poor battered wife that sits at home crying that it's not her fault that her drunken husband comes home each night and beats her.

It may not be her fault, but she can sure as fuck do something about it.

[Headbanger]

It's like the poor battered wife that sits at home crying that it's not her fault that her drunken husband comes home each night and beats her.

It may not be her fault, but she can sure as fuck do something about it.

I'm confused, is it the drunken husband or the battered wife who has to wear the vest?