CBR250r mc19, if I was buying what should I look for?

[nzspokes]

May be looking at a couple of MC19s. Apart from the normal mechanical stuff are there any specific things to look at on one?

[blackdog]

You should look at hanging fire until the power to weight ratio rules come into play. The arse is about to fall out of the market for these old 250's. Instead start scouting around for a 400 IL4 if you have to have a sprots bike, or more sensibly a single or twin up to 660cc. Think SV650 or ER6/F.

Even something like this, I think Matt still has it and he's pretty much giving it away.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-Ducati-400-SS

[nzspokes]

When does it change? that Ducati has less HP than the CBR.

[blackdog]

when does it change? That ducati has less hp than the cbr.

wylmtgtfy?

[DrunkenMistake]

When does it change? that Ducati has less HP than the CBR.

I had an MC19 it done 38.8 at the rear wheel, completely stock, with low km's,
Try find one that isnt Raped with bolt on rubbish I.E exhausts and mufflers.

Fairings are one thing to check, any damage on them will indicate a crash, also that the Choke works, you will be using it.. also make sure it idles at 1,500rpm, if they say its had a full service and tune, it shouldnt be blowing smoke, otherwise it should be blowing grey smoke as they run pretty lean from factory, ask for a full service history, if you can get one with low km, mine had 5,000 when I brought it and I put a little over 10,000 on it.
there is a lock nut on the tripple clamp its chromed, if it has some rust then the bike has been left outside and isnt garaged, not to worry, check the bottom of the muffler, there should be a little 5mm hole, its a drain hole, if its bigger or has rust, then it will need a little fix.

Other thing is check the sprockets if they look really worn down, it would be a good idea to have them and the chain changed.
Cant think of anything else at the moment, Really fun bike to ride, IMO I would wait for the new law to change, I think its.. this month????
And get something like an RVF 400 or a Hyosung GT650R
ill try find you the LAMS pdf.

EDIT: Here you go http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...ist_110905.pdf

[blackdog]

And no, the Ducati has more horsies (factory claimed). More important though is the way the power is delivered. CBR develops 40hp at 14,500rpm whereas the Duc gives you it's full 42 at only 7krpm.

The more telling statistic is torque however. The Honda a measly 23Nm@11000rpm, in comparison the Ducati will feel like it wants to pull out tree stumps with 35Nm@8500rpm.

Unless you weigh 55kg and are on a racetrack, which do you think will be more fun?

Both will probably run a standing 1/4 in about 15 seconds and top speed is going to be around 110mph (again depending on what you weigh).

Ask yourself this too. In 2 years time when you come to sell it, I reckon you'll probably be able to make a bob on that SS. You will have to pay someone to take the baby blade away!

[nzspokes]

One im looking at has stock fairings and done 38000k.

but very intresting on the list. Hyo 650 could be the go.

[nzspokes]

And no, the Ducati has more horsies. More important though is the way the power is delivered. CBR develops 40hp at 14,500rpm whereas the Duc gives you it's full 42 at only 7krpm.

The more telling statistic is torque however. The Honda a measly 23Nm@11000rpm, in comparison the Ducati will feel like it wants to pull out tree stumps with 35Nm@8500rpm.

Unless you weigh 55kg and are on a racetrack, which do you think will be more fun?

CBR is 45 but I get your point. And those Ducs go ok? easy to get parts?

[DrunkenMistake]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-406154404.htm
Looks tidy but dent in the tank indicates a drop, so the bar has dug into the side of the tank. Will need a service if it hasnt had one already.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-331018278.htm
Completely over priced, also dropped, on the exhaust side, the 250 has a small piece missing on the tail and where the camera has flashed the corner of the muffler you can see its a little flat and scrapped

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-405706044.htm
Speaks for itself, its been dropped, badly.
I wouldnt pay that kind of money for something like that.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-406880643.htm
Km's are getting up there, but it shouldnt matter too much, these things usually go pop at the 100,000 mark,
Im concerned it doesnt show the left side of the bike,
if the left is as good as the right I would hit buy now.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-381866549.htm
Needs some TLC, new lever to begin with, like $20, the clutch cover doesnt matter, you can 2000 grit it and paint it, the tank needs finished off but thats not that big of a deal, Id offer 3,000.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-404969620.htm
Wouldnt touch it with a bar of soap.


There ya go.

[DrunkenMistake]

CBR is 45 but I get your point. And those Ducs go ok? easy to get parts?

45 at the crank.

[DrunkenMistake]

And no, the Ducati has more horsies. More important though is the way the power is delivered. CBR develops 40hp at 14,500rpm whereas the Duc gives you it's full 42 at only 7krpm.

The more telling statistic is torque however. The Honda a measly 23Nm@11000rpm, in comparison the Ducati will feel like it wants to pull out tree stumps with 35Nm@8500rpm.

Unless you weigh 55kg and are on a racetrack, which do you think will be more fun?

CBR's deliver their torque late, at about 12,000 you feel it finally pick up, the Ducks and alot of other Vtwins have their torque at a low range or mid range start,

If you want hp to cc rating,
buy a 2stroke, for the same money,
You end up paying for it in rebuilds but its worth every penny.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-405345974.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-404881701.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-404682506.htm

[blackdog]

Hyosung GT650 R

Another good option. There will be GT250R owners crying in their cornflakes all over the country because they are about to become salesproof aswell.

[nzspokes]

pretty sure it wont effect the value of my bike. Worth not much before, still worth not much.

But the Duc is intresting. 2.5k would be about my budget.

[DrunkenMistake]

Another good option. There will be GT250R owners crying in their cornflakes all over the country because they are about to become salesproof aswell.

Oops Missed the important R!



Im looking at buying a GT650R as my next bike, seeming as I dont actually have one at the moment.

[DrunkenMistake]

pretty sure it wont effect the value of my bike. Worth not much before, still worth not much.

But the Duc is intresting. 2.5k would be about my budget.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/cate...ch_suggested=0

Should be all the bikes listed under sports for a maximum value of $2000