MOTO-NZ finally come up with something for all our money

[jellywrestler]

I made two formal submissions to MOTONZ some months ago
having heard nout I emailed them a couple of weeks ago to be told that they had passed on my concerns to the NZTA and had what they did with them

So here's me took the time to formally approach them and now they say they just passed them on, no clues to whether they bothered to add comment to them, suggestions etc etc and no following up how they were received.
Forgive me if I find this process a complete and utter fucking farce

[bogan]

I made two formal submissions to MOTONZ some months ago
having heard nout I emailed them a couple of weeks ago to be told that they had passed on my concerns to the NZTA and had what they did with them

So here's me took the time to formally approach them and now they say they just passed them on, no clues to whether they bothered to add comment to them, suggestions etc etc and no following up how they were received.
Forgive me if I find this process a complete and utter fucking farce

Thats the gist of what I'm getting too, they are happy to flick an email on to somebody else, but lets face, we could, and were doing that already. As an appointed government organisation, they should at the very least, be facilitating greater communication with TPTB, however it all seems to be one way, TPTB tell Gareth what to publish, and to push out the same 'billthebikers' propaganda, and he is doing just that.

I've got my reminder notice for the bros on my bench, and TBH, am wondering if I'll bother to pay it. Large levy increases piss me off, but a $30 MSL which seems at best is being used for nothing, and some would even say it is just being used to fuel anti motorcycle propaganda. Well, that makes me want to put it on hold and go without.

[riffer]

I made two formal submissions to MOTONZ some months ago
having heard nout I emailed them a couple of weeks ago to be told that they had passed on my concerns to the NZTA and had what they did with them

So here's me took the time to formally approach them and now they say they just passed them on, no clues to whether they bothered to add comment to them, suggestions etc etc and no following up how they were received.
Forgive me if I find this process a complete and utter fucking farce

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jellywrestler again.

Yeah, it's a joke ain't it Spyda? If it's any consolation you're not being treated any differently to anyone else. Personally I believe MOTONZ were set up with good and valid terms of reference, but these have been diluted, distorted and over-ridden by Ministerial intervention to the point where they've become disfunctional. And a huge part of the problem is the communication with the people who've given them the money.

It's a disgrace.

[riffer]

I've got my reminder notice for the bros on my bench, and TBH, am wondering if I'll bother to pay it. Large levy increases piss me off, but a $30 MSL which seems at best is being used for nothing, and some would even say it is just being used to fuel anti motorcycle propaganda. Well, that makes me want to put it on hold and go without.

Then you won't be happy about about this:

http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork...censingReform/

Pay big attention to this people. They're looking at the whole Licensing thing. And that may include REMOVING the ability to put a bike on hold.

[bogan]

Then you won't be happy about about this:

http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork...censingReform/

Pay big attention to this people. They're looking at the whole Licensing thing. And that may include REMOVING the ability to put a bike on hold.

Yeh that doesn't sound good at all

I posted a thread on an international site yesterday to compare costs, those guys in US pay less than half what we do, and they are all about fault/blame, what gives? I guess it is partially the paying past and future all at once... which I'm not sure why that is assinged to each of the vehicle classes, I'm pretty sure my risk of having an accident last year hasn't gone up since not having an accident last year.

[red mermaid]

I read the 1st post of this thread and saw that Phil Wright was the Secretariat.

If this is the Phil Wright who was head of the Traffic Safety Service (Traffic Cops) of the MoT in the lead up to the takeover by Police, then I expect absolutely nothing useful will ever come from this organisation except lots of talk, meetings, study tours and general flim flam.

[Scuba_Steve]

I read the 1st post of this thread and saw that Phil Wright was the Secretariat.

If this is the Phil Wright who was head of the Traffic Safety Service (Traffic Cops) of the MoT in the lead up to the takeover by Police, then I expect absolutely nothing useful will ever come from this organisation except lots of talk, meetings, study tours and general flim flam.

at which stage our costs will go up as they'll need to pay for all these meetings, talks, tours, & flim flam as well as the overpriced accommodation, catering & entertainment that comes with them.

[oneofsix]

I read the 1st post of this thread and saw that Phil Wright was the Secretariat.

If this is the Phil Wright who was head of the Traffic Safety Service (Traffic Cops) of the MoT in the lead up to the takeover by Police, then I expect absolutely nothing useful will ever come from this organisation except lots of talk, meetings, study tours and general flim flam.

If it is who you suspect then we can expect another bad move like the one you mention. Sounds like the typical self centred egotist that normally weedal their way into these types of roles.

[Berries]

At least the debate section is back up now.

I'm glad about that. Just picked up some sweet Ralph Lauren sunnies.

If i can get some Chanel for the ball and chain I might get my $30 back. That's Mothers Day sorted. Who said they were a useless ripoff?

[Hitcher]

I read Gareth Morgan's latest epistle. Apparently bikers can't ride for shit, are accidents waiting to happen, are a massive cost on the rest of the taxpaying public and have no idea what's good for them. But don't worry, gentle readers. Gareth is an economist and is coming to our rescue because he's read the ACC's statistics and is the only person who can understand them.

There's nothing that a law making mandatory the wearing of fluoro vests can't cure.

I'm really pleased that we have such insightful leaders amongst us.

[Katman]

I read Gareth Morgan's latest epistle. Apparently bikers can't ride for shit, are accidents waiting to happen, are a massive cost on the rest of the taxpaying public and have no idea what's good for them.

Bitter pill to swallow, ay Brett?

[GrayWolf]

I read Gareth Morgan's latest epistle. Apparently bikers can't ride for shit, are accidents waiting to happen, are a massive cost on the rest of the taxpaying public and have no idea what's good for them. But don't worry, gentle readers. Gareth is an economist and is coming to our rescue because he's read the ACC's statistics and is the only person who can understand them.

There's nothing that a law making mandatory the wearing of fluoro vests can't cure.

I'm really pleased that we have such insightful leaders amongst us.

The sad reality is, no matter WHAT we say, he is the one who will be listened to, by the 'grey men'.... This sadly is where we are going to pay the price for not having people like the '60 something school teacher' in the meetings after the bikoi, rather than the ones who were still 'rabble rousing' in attitude. What amazes me is this guy really believes he is completely right,,, and sadly when you read so many of the posts in kb, boy do we GIVE him the bullets to fire by the box load. What is more bitter is we are being decimated by so called 'friendly fire'

[Crasherfromwayback]

I read Gareth Morgan's latest epistle. Apparently bikers can't ride for shit,.

Bit rich coming from him!

[bogan]

Looks like their sit is being used to discuss the finer points of rego dodging... wonder if that will get a rise out of them cos nothing else seems to

[Conquiztador]

So soon not having a hig vis vest on will make us 1%'s...