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Fucking eh! as far as I can tell, approximately 9mil collected, approx 100k spent (on approximately fuck all as far as I can tell too). Just whose slush fund is the money ending up in?Originally Posted by StoneY
Is it time for us to own an option yet?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
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IIRC his first "crime" was being an employee of the AA. The severity of that crime has diminished with the passage of time.
Come warm yourself by the fire
I hate to say it (as many of your will no my stance via protests)........but why hasn't there been a bikeoi @ McSAC HQ?
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SH1 rider
And now you will be told by all the naysayers. Some call kiwis apathetic, nah, its just all the under-miners and naysayers, "it wont work because ...". Enough to put anybody off
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Do they have one?
I also found this chairmans message on their site:
Looks like we'll be getting a proper update this weekend then?One of the questions we’re most often asked – usually by disgruntled levy payers – is “what the hell are you doing with our money?” The $30 motorcycle/ist? Levy amounts to about $3M a year, and our council is responsible for consulting with the motorcycling community and deciding how that money is spent.
What have we spent it on? Not much yet. We are not under pressure to spend it quickly. We’re under pressure to spend it wisely, and that’s what we’re focused on.
I wrote a formal Chairman’s update in December and I will write another formal update in March 2012 – we do one every quarter, and they are posted on the website. Meanwhile, here’s a progress report on some of the projects under way.
In addition to the activities such as the Coromandel Loop project already on the site, this is work underway now
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Come warm yourself by the fire
Hmmmm
Do they have to release annual financial reports or some sorts - becuase by my maths they should have a kitty of about 8 million.
Thats enough for a free track day for everyone.
If anyone can get me those Annual reports would be greatly appreciated.
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SH1 rider
Did you deduct running costs? or are those covered by ACC?
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covered by ACC, pretty sure there is enough in their kitty to buy me some new gloves... and every other biker too!
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Senior Grumpy Old Bastard
Well here's a challenge option to the MOTO-NZ members on KB
you have roughly 8 mill' of funds to spend wisely? What else could be wiser than having research funded purely for NZ bikers stats by an outside party, just like an expert witnesses in a courtroom.. for that amount you could surely employ a world respected authority (or 2) to come up with the truth about bike accident statistics.... THEN MOTO-NZ has some real ammunition to fire at the Govt on the payers (riders) behalf....
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf
The instructions are simple...
On the rider's behalf? Are you mad? McSAC is not there for the riders...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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There is no HQ the meetings are held in whatever conference centre they can find for the day.
Yep, thats about right ... sadly we shot our load at my 40th partyAnd now you will be told by all the naysayers. Some call kiwis apathetic, nah, its just all the under-miners and naysayers, "it wont work because ...". Enough to put anybody off
Don't hold your breath - he is probably in Antarctica trying to sink vikings
Nope - all the rego's that went on hold reduced the contribution by 30%, which led to TV1 doing an OIA on Nick Smiths emails to Stephen Joyce about 'how do we deal with these bikers placing rego's on hold its affected the predicted income' and Joyces reply 'Police suggest demerit points [on a non safety issue] as a suitable deterent'
The fund was just under 3 mil when I was sacked a year ago so.... EPIC FAIL
Remember the story on Mad Mike and his made up plates? I saw with my own eyes the emails form Nick to Joyce and back, I was livid!
My comments on that factor and the fact I appeared on 1 news stating we motorcyclists believed the vehicle levys were the cause of the surplus not the worker levy's, was mere days before Morgans crybaby letter to Nick was written.
Apparently one member of the council threatened to walk if I was not removed..... betcha it was the Ulysses rep.
When we were a steering group, that was the word, and in the TOR's.
Once we became MOTO NZ suddenly the council was expected be self funding - so dont count on ACC paying all the running costs, I just can't see that happening.
IF ANYONE wants to do an OIA, do it on the success of the TXT DUNG, and seek a financial accounting of the Black routes Project (aka Coro Loop Event)
As far as I am concerned, anything I say will be seen as bitterness and spite (and they have grounds to view my commentary as such) however, my caveat:
If I am bitter it is for these reasons.
I was there for the whole steering committee process so was in from day 1 on the TOR's, and the agreed structure/process/model and predictions.
What we have now is in no way similar to what we designed IMO.
I was initially happy we had GM as chair, and was quite flattered I was sleected onto the council.
As we went on with the 'business' of the council, I became less happy as the TOR's were being twisted to meet a business plan.
This was NOT meant to be a fuckin BUSINESS.
The BEST presentations we saw, were largely ignored.
It started to become a fiasco in my eyes and I was unhappy with the lack of progress, the pontificating, the posturing, and the internal political games being played by ACC officials and the obviously secret communications between internal factions.
Am I bitter?
Yes.
Because I was cut out of the loop by jealous people who resented how many people actually read my posts or listened to my opinions? (as I listened to thiers [open communication with the wider motorcycle community])
NO, that is NOT why I am bitter.
I am bitter for the wasted opportunities this council has missed, and how making the Minister and the Chair happy became the focus of this group as opposed to spending your hard earned money on YOU!
Fact.
Recently, the final nail for me was not even motorcycle related...it was the story of GM stating he would not aid the 'wild Viking' if he started to get into maritime trouble in the Southern Ocean.
Not many of you know this but, I was a deep sea fisherman for a period of my life, trawling near the Auckland Islands (deeply within the southern ocean) for Orange Roughy and Deep Sea Dory (blacks, spikeys and smoothies) and that goes against the code of the sea.
It also showed me Morgan's real attitude, 'fuck anyone who doesn't agree with MY opinion'
To suggest he would let people drown in that cold, nasty place (trust me it is NASTY down there) because they 'didnt have a permit' says he would also leave a dying biker in a ditch because his bike was not registered, IMO.
THAT my friends (and any others reading this thread) was the moment I knew for sure GM is an utter fuckwit and has NO right to spend YOUR money on OUR safety issues.
Peace, and out.
Just ride.
Coal Burning XV Rider!
And therein lies the problem, Ladies and Gentleman, they said it was! Butt it ain't.
Mr Kiwi, Dave, come on over anytime and tell us whats going on at MOTO NZ, I'd ask for some thought to be given to actually asking the general population of motorcyclists ( not just those of us here on KB) what this money should be spent on.
I'm picking most of them would say, not F...ing Hi Vis shit, not attempting to straighten roads, not on breakfasts anywhere, but on slip on covers for armco's, and wire rope barriers, things that will actually save lives and generate jobs for other NZ'ers in their implementation and maintenance.
Every day above ground is a good day!:
Have it large
Soooo...(very tentatively)..are we ready yet for another bit of a ruck with the bastards...yet?
If so, call me Caseye and paint me green for go.
[SIGPIC]
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Ok Casseye. Lets do it
Just ride.
Coal Burning XV Rider!
LOL,NoNoNo Ya bloody shiet stirrer you, I Love ya, you know that.
Hummmmmmm, now where'd we go last time and what'd we do? Na wouldn't work twice, or would it? If next time we just went!
And then didn't take the foot off their bloody throats.
Every day above ground is a good day!
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