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    M50 de-baffle?

    I'm just about to trade my dr650 for a m50 and I'm interested to hear if anyone has debaffled the exhaust- any performance gains? I know it's going to be louder, and that is all good! As long as there are no negative impacts...

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    I haven't de-baffled, but I've drilled the rear plate out with a series of holes. Dad's M50 is de-baffled (stage 1 only) and sounds great, little deeper than mine and no noticable loss of power compared to my bike.

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    I did my M50 google honest abes exhaust mod...

    Changes the sound considerably makes it sound like a bike instead of a sewing machine.

    Cold chisel, hole saw and a length of brrom handle to snap out the baffles.

    Or just go the whole way and buy a harley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 888 View Post
    I'm just about to trade my dr650 for a m50 and I'm interested to hear if anyone has debaffled the exhaust- any performance gains? I know it's going to be louder, and that is all good! As long as there are no negative impacts...
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130019068

    And you can reference the link above to this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyUF...eature=related
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    Great feedback and info- I can't wait to get on the M50- shaft drive, inverted forks, why in the world would I spend the extra money on a Harley? Especially when the M50 will blow away any 883..marketing on HD is great and the perceived "coolness" might be there for some- but I'll take performance and value any day of the week.

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    Look forward to catching up sometime for a ride.

    The M50 can keep up with the big boys on 'spirited' rides that's for sure.

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    I've got a debaffled VL800 Volusia - I have original exhausts and the debaffled set, and swap em around.. I dont notice any real difference, apart from the noise... that sweet sweet noise :P

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    So it looks like a relatively easy job of drilling holes in the first baffle, I'll start with that however getting some cobra drag pipes from the states will certainly be on the list. The dealer quoted me $1500 dollars for some Vance/Hines pipes- while I admire their profit margin I won't be giving them my money! I'll be interested to see how the seat feels after a couple of hours, but I'm confident it will be waaaay more comfortable than the DR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 888 View Post
    So it looks like a relatively easy job of drilling holes in the first baffle, I'll start with that however getting some cobra drag pipes from the states will certainly be on the list. The dealer quoted me $1500 dollars for some Vance/Hines pipes- while I admire their profit margin I won't be giving them my money! I'll be interested to see how the seat feels after a couple of hours, but I'm confident it will be waaaay more comfortable than the DR!
    It will be..
    Also, check out www.volusiariders.com - lotsa info and deals on stuff people are getting rid of..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 888 View Post
    So it looks like a relatively easy job of drilling holes in the first baffle, I'll start with that however getting some cobra drag pipes from the states will certainly be on the list. The dealer quoted me $1500 dollars for some Vance/Hines pipes- while I admire their profit margin I won't be giving them my money! I'll be interested to see how the seat feels after a couple of hours, but I'm confident it will be waaaay more comfortable than the DR!
    A lot of Cobras are way to loud for most people. And you will need to retune your engine with them, if you want to maintain the same or peak performance.

    If you want even more wham and bam, once you drill the first plate, weld a drill bit to a shaft the same diameter of the drill bit(s). Then run the shaft down the new holes you've drilled until it touches the next plate, and turn the drill on and put holes through the second plate.

    Failing that, build some mufflers. It is easy to make a set of 2" slip on mufflers, running 2" diameter removable drag pipe baffles. You can then further modify the baffling on those, by packing around the drag pipe baffle.

    See if this video works for you

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=461478875140
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    Quote Originally Posted by 888 View Post
    Great feedback and info- I can't wait to get on the M50- shaft drive, inverted forks, why in the world would I spend the extra money on a Harley? Especially when the M50 will blow away any 883..marketing on HD is great and the perceived "coolness" might be there for some- but I'll take performance and value any day of the week.
    Thats why i avoided an 883, I have a 1450 bored and scremin eagle tuned to 1550 it blows away any other cruiser apart from a rocket.

    These days late model harleys TC88 inch are ultra reliable as much as jappas and sound heaps cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry74 View Post
    Thats why i avoided an 883, I have a 1450 bored and scremin eagle tuned to 1550 it blows away any other cruiser apart from a rocket.

    These days late model harleys TC88 inch are ultra reliable as much as jappas and sound heaps cooler.
    I firmly say, the above is a load of rubbish.

    And I'd be willing to put my 18 year old 45 cube cruiser on a drag line to prove it. Factory reports it at 63hp and dyno results only vary from 67hp to 87hp depending on the exhaust on it. Would love to get it official once I happen to be in the same place as the Harris dyno (it's free).

    A stage one Screamin Eagle "tune up" produces about 70hp

    For comparison, this following list has been dynoed at 97hp (note - you need a lot of money to get all this)

    1550 Cylinders, Branch Flowmetrics Headwork, 10.5-1 JE Pistons, Andrews G-55 Cam, Screamin' Eagle Stage 1 Air Cleaner Kit, Basaani True Dual Exhaust System, Dynojet PC w/ Custom MAP.

    In saying that, M50 dynos report about 45hp.

    And you obviously need the reports side my side to see the way the engine handles the power.

    And receipt to receipt for repairs. In the last 80,000Km or more I've ridden the bike, it has only needed a new battery, cam chain, drive chain & sprockets, volt reg and I recently re-did the fork seals. I've also re-covered the seat.

    I would be happy to be proved wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Rider View Post
    I firmly say, the above is a load of rubbish.

    And I'd be willing to put my 18 year old 45 cube cruiser on a drag line to prove it. Factory reports it at 63hp and dyno results only vary from 67hp to 87hp depending on the exhaust on it. Would love to get it official once I happen to be in the same place as the Harris dyno (it's free).

    A stage one Screamin Eagle "tune up" produces about 70hp

    For comparison, this following list has been dynoed at 97hp (note - you need a lot of money to get all this)

    1550 Cylinders, Branch Flowmetrics Headwork, 10.5-1 JE Pistons, Andrews G-55 Cam, Screamin' Eagle Stage 1 Air Cleaner Kit, Basaani True Dual Exhaust System, Dynojet PC w/ Custom MAP.

    In saying that, M50 dynos report about 45hp.

    And you obviously need the reports side my side to see the way the engine handles the power.

    And receipt to receipt for repairs. In the last 80,000Km or more I've ridden the bike, it has only needed a new battery, cam chain, drive chain & sprockets, volt reg and I recently re-did the fork seals. I've also re-covered the seat.

    I would be happy to be proved wrong.
    Ok dude I will happily prove you wrong lol... mine is stage 2 screaming eagle worked... screaming eagle racing ignition set to 6400 redline,fully worked heads and barrells 203 cams, dynotuned etc has been dyno tested at Trevor Pierce at 103 hp.
    This is one seriously quick bike will wind off the clock on a long straight 220 km plus. ( long being the word as it is a heavy old pig)
    Avon City Suzuki sold it to me and Josh there can vouch for all work done to it.
    Work cost the last owner excess of $15000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry74 View Post
    Ok dude I will happily prove you wrong lol... mine is stage 2 screaming eagle worked... screaming eagle racing ignition set to 6400 redline,fully worked heads and barrells 203 cams, dynotuned etc has been dyno tested at Trevor Pierce at 103 hp.
    This is one seriously quick bike will wind off the clock on a long straight 220 km plus. ( long being the word as it is a heavy old pig)
    Avon City Suzuki sold it to me and Josh there can vouch for all work done to it.
    Work cost the last owner excess of $15000
    Your boast of your modified bike topping any stock bike bar a Rocket is still false, regardless of the upgrades. A Suzuki 109 series and a stock V-rod (at 110hp from rear wheel).

    On top of that, if we are talking bikes with $15000 chucked into them that extra $15K makes your Harley on the low end of performance bikes. A 109 with only a set of pipes, air filter, and re-code will do 118hp.

    And most importantly of all - you've compared of a 1550cc bike plus the $15K additions to an 800cc stock suzuki bike (that WILL outperform the Harley 833cc 42hp equivalent), in a thread about debaffling one. You might as well boast of owning the turbocharged land speed record Hayabusa as it has little to do with an M50. Or debaffling.

    edit-

    And still happy to put my old bike against yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry74 View Post
    Ok dude I will happily prove you wrong lol... mine is stage 2 screaming eagle worked... screaming eagle racing ignition set to 6400 redline,fully worked heads and barrells 203 cams, dynotuned etc has been dyno tested at Trevor Pierce at 103 hp.
    This is one seriously quick bike will wind off the clock on a long straight 220 km plus. ( long being the word as it is a heavy old pig)
    Avon City Suzuki sold it to me and Josh there can vouch for all work done to it.
    Work cost the last owner excess of $15000
    What the fuck do you do to "fully work " a barrel? Just saying is all.
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