Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 28 of 28

Thread: I have some beginner's questions to ask

  1. #16
    Join Date
    6th December 2005 - 21:14
    Bike
    2005, Yamaha FZ1
    Location
    Orewa, Whangaparaoa
    Posts
    342
    Google andrew Templeton in Wellington, and invest some $$$$$ into your life span. Get some training...
    P.s. You should've learnt how to change gear during your Basic Handling Skills.
    Remember, that GOOD QUALITY TRAINING stays with you forever. It doesn't get sold with your bike, or expire with your rego. It stays with you FOREVER..

    It's not the message that is DELIVERED, but the message that is RECEIVED that is important.

  2. #17
    Join Date
    14th June 2007 - 22:39
    Bike
    Obsolete ones.
    Location
    Pigs back.
    Posts
    5,390
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    definitely pull clutch in THEN Throttle off.

    nice trollage by the way: no newb is that NEW

    I disagrozzle. I'm teaching basics at the mo & what seems the simplest thing for me can be a mountain to climb for a complete novice. I'm learning a lot from the experience about perception & confidence.
    Pulling away took a little time, too much focus on the throttle & not the clutch. Looking down at the front wheel = a stall. Looking where you want to ride & your off. It's a subtle thing.

  3. #18
    Join Date
    1st September 2007 - 21:01
    Bike
    1993 Yamaha FJ 1200
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    14,125
    Blog Entries
    2
    A very quiet back road to practice going up and down through the gears. Coming to a complete stop each time ... Repeat untill the cows come home ... and then some more ...

    Practice DOES pay off ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

  4. #19
    Join Date
    14th November 2011 - 18:15
    Bike
    2008 kawasaki ninja 250R
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    4
    Quote Originally Posted by xlibrax View Post
    1. Do you always have to start the gear from 1st? If so, why and why not 2nd or 3rd gear

    2. Which step is the right one for gear shifting.
    1. Pull in clutch
    2. Throttle off
    3. Shift gear

    Or

    1. Throttle off
    2. Pull in clutch
    3. Shift gear


    3. At which gear do you have to let go of the clutch smoothly? From What i know is it's 1st gear.

    4. I'm having a bit trouble with downshifting..I have seen most of the videos from youtube but I don't get it. For example, you have to match the rpm with the engine speed and inorder to do that "blip" the throttle?? What is this mean?


    This post might be little messy because i'm writing from my phone. Sorry about that.

    so , i dont know what is correct , but i pull clutch in as i let go of throttle , letting it slip back through my fingers , pull the shifter to the next gear up , then let the clutch back out an onto the gas.

    1st is first for a reason , its the first gear you should use , that simple buddy

    gears and smooth shifting , personally , from a motorsport background , I know that the smoother you shift , the better all round , try and be as smooth as possible with everything as much as you can

    downshifting , i simply pull clutch in , push down to lower gear , blip the throttle and let the clutch out , blipping the throttle helps the engine meet the higher revving for the lower gear , guys drifting cars dont do this , and consequently , lock the rear wheels up , using the engines compression , short story , make it smooth , itll be quicker an easier

  5. #20
    Join Date
    13th December 2008 - 18:22
    Bike
    Your mom
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    3,901
    1. Put the bike in 1st gear
    2. Rev the bike to the redline.
    3. Release the clutch as quickly as possible.
    4. Call an ambulance.

  6. #21
    Join Date
    4th October 2008 - 16:35
    Bike
    R100GSPD
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    10,240
    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    1. Call an ambulance
    2. Engage First gear
    3. Rev the bike to the redline.
    4. Release the clutch as quickly as possible.
    .
    fixt for ya

  7. #22
    Join Date
    18th August 2006 - 15:51
    Bike
    2009 Yamaha XJ6S
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    2,686
    As Tricia 1000 says: Get some professional training & learn how to do it properly!!

    Call on Andrew Templeton (04) 232 0110 www.roadsafe.co.nz

    Book in for the Learn to Ride & Basic Handling Skills Courses, which includes the BHS test required to get your learners motorcycle licence

    Roadsafe are the contracted provider (by the Councils & ACC) of rider training courses for the Wellington region (as well as Nelson, Tasman, Marlborough & Hamilton). So once you have a licence & your own bike, you can attend full day professional training courses & it will only cost you approx $20!

    There are too many self taught bikers on the road, & people who learn from Muppets!

    Good quallity training will stay with you for life!
    GET ON
    SIT DOWN
    SHUT UP
    HANG ON

  8. #23
    Join Date
    15th January 2010 - 09:17
    Bike
    15 BMW S1000R
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    193
    Definitely some training and find some back roads to just practice, practice, practice on. In terms of the throttle, clutch, gear thing - try not to think about it so much. If you think about it, you'll stuff it up. If you don't think about it, it'll happen

  9. #24
    Join Date
    29th August 2008 - 10:41
    Bike
    '74 MV Augusta I wish
    Location
    Shoe box on motorway
    Posts
    1,159
    Blog Entries
    4
    Quote Originally Posted by xlibrax View Post
    1. Do you always have to start the gear from 1st? If so, why and why not 2nd or 3rd gear


    .
    Hi these youtubes - starting off and here re downshifting, are some of the better ones applicable for your situation. If its any help, I'd do a fair amount of low speed control stuff on your bike, empty car parks, enough so it becomes automatic and natural, so allow plenty of time.
    Whatever you do stay inside your comfort envelope on the road. Good luck

  10. #25
    Join Date
    2nd February 2008 - 15:59
    Bike
    Roadstar 1600 & Royal Star Venture
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    2,076
    Quote Originally Posted by xlibrax View Post
    1. Do you always have to start the gear from 1st? If so, why and why not 2nd or 3rd gear

    2. Which step is the right one for gear shifting.
    1. Pull in clutch
    2. Throttle off
    3. Shift gear

    Or

    1. Throttle off
    2. Pull in clutch
    3. Shift gear


    3. At which gear do you have to let go of the clutch smoothly? From What i know is it's 1st gear.

    4. I'm having a bit trouble with downshifting..I have seen most of the videos from youtube but I don't get it. For example, you have to match the rpm with the engine speed and inorder to do that "blip" the throttle?? What is this mean?


    This post might be little messy because i'm writing from my phone. Sorry about that.
    Please do NOT follow the advice of posts like hitchers. It is so easy for the experienced to mock newbies. From reading your info you were/are a scooter rider, so used to a 'twist and go' vehicle.
    As a 'self taught' rider from the buy it, stick L plates on it and ride it out the shop door school of survival. The best advice you are being given in this thread IS Andrew Templeton. My partner did the BHS course with him, and I watched a good section of it. He, put bluntly, knows his shit.
    If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf

  11. #26
    Join Date
    20th April 2003 - 08:28
    Bike
    Something red and quick
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    2,499
    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
    Is it a ZX12 with a Hayabusa fairing, or a Hayabusa with a ZX12 tail?
    A bit like transexual, don't you think?
    Elite Fight Club - Proudly promoting common sense and safe riding since 2024
    http://1199s.wordpress.com

  12. #27
    Join Date
    20th April 2003 - 08:28
    Bike
    Something red and quick
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    2,499
    Quote Originally Posted by xlibrax View Post
    1. Do you always have to start the gear from 1st? If so, why and why not 2nd or 3rd gear

    2. Which step is the right one for gear shifting.
    1. Pull in clutch
    2. Throttle off
    3. Shift gear

    Or

    1. Throttle off
    2. Pull in clutch
    3. Shift gear


    3. At which gear do you have to let go of the clutch smoothly? From What i know is it's 1st gear.

    4. I'm having a bit trouble with downshifting..I have seen most of the videos from youtube but I don't get it. For example, you have to match the rpm with the engine speed and inorder to do that "blip" the throttle?? What is this mean?


    This post might be little messy because i'm writing from my phone. Sorry about that.
    1. You can start from 2nd/3rd if your bike has enough power, but seriously do you like climbing stairs by jumping up to the middle first, or do you simply climb up from the bottom like normal people do?

    2. Throttle off, pull in clutch, shift gear. But practice until you can do it quickly and smoothly. They are not 3 separate steps. They are 3 elements strung together in harmony.

    3. Any gear.

    4. When learning, stick to low-mid rpm (best not to go over 5k-6k) so it's easy to learn downshifting without having to blip. Once you are good, then you can learn to blip.

    And yeah, find an instructor. Shifting is only a small part of learning to ride.

    For a post written on a phone, it's actually quite well written. Capitalised, punctuated, and all.
    Elite Fight Club - Proudly promoting common sense and safe riding since 2024
    http://1199s.wordpress.com

  13. #28
    Join Date
    28th December 2011 - 05:52
    Bike
    2011 H D Ultra Classic Electra Glide
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    22
    Everybody rides different pal....get some training and find your own method.
    The speed of light is faster than the speed of sound. That's why so many people appear bright...until they speak.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •