Kick start for noobs

**Matariki** · 10th December 2011, 16:28

Originally Posted by unstuck

Dont think it would of done it any good, fill it with oil and put a bit of fresh pre mix fuel in the tank 50/1 mix maybe and try again. They really like oil.

Whats pre mix fuel?

Now I seriously wished that I had checked for oil beforehand, that teaches me not to be so eager next time.

**Ocean1** · 10th December 2011, 16:31

Originally Posted by Hotkebab

I think I know what the problem is, I went to check the oil and its dry!

I hope I haven't fcuked the engine. Would that explain my problems with the kick start?

If you've only had it half started then it's unlikely to have done much harm. I'd be more worried about WHY the tank was empty. It's possible the previous owner was running it on pre-mix but I'd ring and ask him about it. You really do need someone to check it out, I'm a bit far away but surely there's someone in the 'Rapa who's owned a 2 stroke that can help?

Luck with the starting, they can be right bitches sometimes but it really is just down to practice.

**Ocean1** · 10th December 2011, 16:34

Originally Posted by Hotkebab

Whats pre mix fuel?

A mix of 2 stroke oil and petrol, usually about 40:1 for those I think. Add the oil into a can first, then petrol, slosh it around a bit and pour it into the bike.

**Matariki** · 10th December 2011, 16:36

Originally Posted by Ocean1

If you've only had it half started then it's unlikely to have done much harm. I'd be more worried about WHY the tank was empty. It's possible the previous owner was running it on pre-mix but I'd ring and ask him about it. You really do need someone to check it out, I'm a bit far away but surely there's someone in the 'Rapa who's owned a 2 stroke that can help?

Luck with the starting, they can be right bitches sometimes but it really is just down to practice.

Unfortunately the last owner is dead (probably from trying to get the bloody thing started) but yes I am concerned about that. However the owner's late wife informed me that it had passed its WOF six months ago, so I'm not sure what is going on here. I'll pop some more oil into it and see if that does the trick, if not, then its off to the mechanics.

**Dadpole** · 10th December 2011, 18:02

You are referring to the oil tank under the seat are you not? If that is empty, then it has been running on pre-mix -or- the oil was drained for shipping to you (if you had it shipped).

**Matariki** · 10th December 2011, 21:06

Originally Posted by Dadpole

You are referring to the oil tank under the seat are you not? If that is empty, then it has been running on pre-mix -or- the oil was drained for shipping to you (if you had it shipped).

Yes, and yes I did have it shipped. Why would the shipping company need to empty the oil and then not tell me once the bike was delivered?

**Ocean1** · 10th December 2011, 21:31

Originally Posted by Dadpole

You are referring to the oil tank under the seat are you not? If that is empty, then it has been running on pre-mix -or- the oil was drained for shipping to you (if you had it shipped).

Originally Posted by Hotkebab

Yes, and yes I did have it shipped. Why would the shipping company need to empty the oil and then not tell me once the bike was delivered?

Bloody good point, transport reg's are getting really anal about oil in freight. It's quite likely it was drained for the trip down... but didn't it have petrol in the tank?

And yes, I'd have thunk they'd tell you it was dry eh?

Edit: check the gearbox oil too.

**Fast Eddie** · 11th December 2011, 11:25

yea having no oil and only petrol running through the engine, the petrol would have washed away what oil there was and most probably why it was jerky/sticky to kick over.. give it a good oiling up and try a product called "start ya bastard" big yellow can. you basically squirt a tiny bit near the air intake/air box and if the bike can start it will start with a squirt of that stuff.

**Fast Eddie** · 11th December 2011, 11:26

Originally Posted by Drew

Here's my question. Why hasn't someone with a half decent knowledge of motorcycles showed up to help this girl out?
Can't be too many single guys in the rappa obviously.

lol.. recon. Guess its a gamble tho, judging by the biker girls down south

**Fast Eddie** · 11th December 2011, 11:32

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Bloody good point, transport reg's are getting really anal about oil in freight. It's quite likely it was drained for the trip down...

Wierd eh, I'm currently having an RS250 transported down here and the specified to make sure the oil and petrol was full so they could run the engine and move it under its own power.. recon they borrow it for the weekend before delivering? haha..

its been 2 weeks and they still won't give me an estimated delivery date either.. will out the company once they deliver the bike haha. seriously bad service experience for me for a m/cycle specialist mover tho.

What company did you use Kebab?

**Matariki** · 11th December 2011, 14:09

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

What company did you use Kebab?

I shipped with Biketranz

**Matariki** · 11th December 2011, 15:25

So what 2 stroke oil would be best for my Suzuki TS?

**Fast Eddie** · 11th December 2011, 15:28

Originally Posted by Hotkebab

I shipped with Biketranz

yea I should have used Biketranz.. they were the same price as the one I went for but Bike tranz didnt go to Gisborne, but they went close. Should have gone with them.

How long did it take them to pick up your bike and deliver it to you?

I'm almost into my second week of waiting now with no suggestion of a delivery date at all.. I'm guessing my bike is prob floating around the North Isle at the moment