V-twin vs inline 4?

[cmoore]

I havn't read the thread but I do cuurently own an in-line 4(XJR1300), v-twin (XV1000) and a Parallel twin (XS650)....all I can say is they are different...I'm sure that comes as a huge surprise..

[Monty69]

Ive owned many 4cyl sportbikes, loved the way the power just builds and builds like a turbine. Great If you wana go trackday racing or really fast in a strait line, but i then bought an SV650s twin...Oh the glorious sound of 90degree DOHC vtwin with full, 2bros exhaust system Fair to say it was slower in outright speed than my cbr600 (Bout 45hp less) But in the real world, ie twistie new zealand roads, and traffic, the SV is much more responsive and willing to pull hard even from low rpm. My mate who has a dynod 140hp gsxr 750 always comments how exiting out of tight corners I (and my other mate on a buell xb12r) just pull away, untill he gets a strait to reel us in. I find it easier to get the power down sooner with the twins. And as someone else stated in the thread, the narrow engine configuration keeps the bike very slim. So you can tell ive swaped camps to vtwins, but i havent ridden a busa...

[slofox]

Ive owned many 4cyl sportbikes, loved the way the power just builds and builds like a turbine. Great If you wana go trackday racing or really fast in a strait line, but i then bought an SV650s twin...Oh the glorious sound of 90degree DOHC vtwin with full, 2bros exhaust system Fair to say it was slower in outright speed than my cbr600 (Bout 45hp less) But in the real world, ie twistie new zealand roads, and traffic, the SV is much more responsive and willing to pull hard even from low rpm. My mate who has a dynod 140hp gsxr 750 always comments how exiting out of tight corners I (and my other mate on a buell xb12r) just pull away, untill he gets a strait to reel us in. I find it easier to get the power down sooner with the twins. And as someone else stated in the thread, the narrow engine configuration keeps the bike very slim. So you can tell ive swaped camps to vtwins, but i havent ridden a busa...

Opposite experience for me. Had an SV650S then was seduced by a GSX-R600.

Not because of the engine config. but because of the superior handling of the gixxer. Still love the V2 engine note. But also love the hysterical banshee scream of the IL4 revving to 16k.

A Ducati 848 is on my bucket list.

[Monty69]

Opposite experience for me. Had an SV650S then was seduced by a GSX-R600.

Not because of the engine config. but because of the superior handling of the gixxer. Still love the V2 engine note. But also love the hysterical banshee scream of the IL4 revving to 16k.

A Ducati 848 is on my bucket list.

Yeah id love some USD forks and bigger brakes for sure!

[avgas]

the best engine configuration is.............................................


















































































































































assembled and running.

[steve_t]

A Ducati 848 is on my bucket list.

the best engine configuration is.............................................

V4

[SMOKEU]

the best engine configuration is.............................................

Wank wank wank wank wankel.

[avgas]

V4

V12 is 3 times better than that.

[avgas]

Wank wank wank wank wankel.

You might be right. If it didn't break down the wankel is a fantastic configuration.

[ducatilover]

You might be right. If it didn't break down the wankel is a fantastic configuration.

Or use so much petrol.

[GrayWolf]

The biggest reason people thing the V's are torque monsters is the power delivery.
More cylinders = more toque and better breathing = more torque. V-twin = less of everything, but will feel torquey due to the pulsing it makes from the firing order in comparison to a smooth six or four.

Sooo My MT-01 which produces MORE torque than an r1 (110ft lbs) and only 88bhp....... ???
Weight of reciprocating parts, level of tune and length of stroke will have a profound effect on the type of power delivery of any engine.

Usually the big difference today is the high state of tune (BHP for MPH) compared to older bikes. If comparing my old FJ1200 to the MT? It probably does outhaul it for low down grunt, but they built their reputation on being Torque monsters in their day. The MT is much nicer coming out of a bend than my ZZR, unless I have the Zed in a low gear. Really a twin generally has a more 'relaxed' or usable power delivery untill you get into Duck territory.
I said it in my 'review' of the MT, I dont miss the extra 50 bhp in the slightest and I dont miss the extra 70-80kph either!

[GrayWolf]

Wank wank wank wank wankel.

We already worked out your favourite hobby sonny

[ducatilover]

Sooo My MT-01 which produces MORE torque than an r1 (110ft lbs) and only 88bhp....... ???
Weight of reciprocating parts, level of tune and length of stroke will have a profound effect on the type of power delivery of any engine.

Your MT-01 has a huge engine... (Giz us a go on it?)

Usually the big difference today is the high state of tune (BHP for MPH) compared to older bikes. If comparing my old FJ1200 to the MT? It probably does outhaul it for low down grunt, but they built their reputation on being Torque monsters in their day. The MT is much nicer coming out of a bend than my ZZR, unless I have the Zed in a low gear. Really a twin generally has a more 'relaxed' or usable power delivery untill you get into Duck territory.
I said it in my 'review' of the MT, I dont miss the extra 50 bhp in the slightest and I dont miss the extra 70-80kph either!

Higher state of tune gives more torque.
But, most think an engine with torquey feeling low end (like Twins tend to be) have more torque...they don't.
I'm all for something that feels like it has gobs of torque though.
MT-01 vs ZZR11 is a bit of a big change though, I can see why you did it.

[raziel1983]

Sooo My MT-01 which produces MORE torque than an r1 (110ft lbs) and only 88bhp....... ???

Queue the "No replacement for displacement" comment, Actually remarkably accurate in this instance.

[steve_t]

Queue the "No replacement for displacement" comment, Actually remarkably accurate in this instance.

Not sure if that saying is worth waiting in line for