STILL A LOSER RIDER (Pointless Rant)

[vifferman]

do you not think you're over reacting a little? If you didn't conform to the law, then why should you pass?

Sometimes though, they 'imagine' stuff you've done wrong. Like when I did my car test (a couple of years after Noah got his ark-driving certification), I was noted for "rolling back on the hillstart". Excuse me?!? What actually happened was the short hill where the testers liked to do hillstarts had another car parked on it. So, I waited behind it, did a hillstart on the slopey bit before the hill using the footbrake, then parked on the hill using the handbrake, and did a perfect takeoff. But (BUT!!) the Austin 1800 LandCrab has huge suspension movement - as the clutch bites with the handbrake still on, the front of the car rises up, you let the brake off, it goes down, off you go. I think either the footbrake start or the suspension movement confused the poor MOT oroficer. In any case, he was determined to fail me, and took me to the Gubmint Gardens in Rotorua to do the test - backing into a path at an acute angle to the road, 3-point turn on a one-way road slightly wider than the car, etc. All stuff that would've been difficult in a Mini, and impossible for everyone in the LandCrab. As it turned out, I passed - with one minor point to spare.

Bike licence tester was completely different (i.e., not an arsehat with an axe to grind). "That your bike? Meet me in the carpark and we'll go for a blat!"
I cocked up a couple of things (failed to indicate one turn, went too fast on another), but I was at least confident and relaxed.

HT tester in Ngaruawahia did the "We'll just check the vehicle" thing.
RUC certificate was expired by more than 5000km. He dispensed with the fine (prolly coz it was a Gubmint truck), and sent me away. When I returned a few weeks later (having had to help with a last-minute brake bleed on the truck), it was the easiest test I'd ever done - drove around the block, backed around a corner, and that was that.

So much depends on the tester: their personality, nationality, mood, the snap decision they make about what you look like, the weather, what they had for lunch, whether they did/didn't get a bit last night, their biorhythms, whatever. It ends up being quite arbitrary, and most often, in no wise a test of your actual driving/riding competence. Why the hell else is it that there are so many morons on the road who couldn't drive their way out of a paper bag, if they had a carload of instructors with them, and a million dollars was riding on it?

[MSTRS:Me]

Maybe people should read it through and understand what's being said before dishing out bad rep too...
MDU

Eh? None from me....a greenie from me for defending my 'attack'

[Smorg]

sounds like a penis to me..................i sit my restricted in a few weeks hope i dont get the same arsehole!!!!!
Still sourcing a 250 to do the friggin test on

[ManDownUnder]

Eh? None from me....a greenie from me for defending my 'attack'

Na mate you're right, not from you. I'm not naming names just surprised at the response is all...

To be honest I quite enjoy you taking me on from time to time... fun to disagree sometimes eh?
MDU

[vifferman]

rebook
had a joint sprayed lots of lynx / clear eyesd my eyes
drove sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly


the geriatric PASSES ME wooojhhohooooo

So, what are you saying, mikey? That some recreational drooogs beforehand is the way to go? Strictly medicinal, of course. Just to help you relax.

[MSTRS:Me]

Na mate you're right, not from you. I'm not naming names just surprised at the response is all...

To be honest I quite enjoy you taking me on from time to time... fun to disagree sometimes eh?
MDU

Oh yea....must take it to the track sometime. Then we'll see who has the biggest one eh?

[ManDownUnder]

Oh yea....must take it to the track sometime. Then we'll see who has the biggest one eh?

err... lemme see... 1 track novice on a sleeved down GSX engine, vs someone else on the GSX-R 1100????

errrr. I know who I'd put my money on!

And beside - size isn't everything (unless you don't have enough to keep you happy...)

[Motu]

Ah for the good old days eh? I was told to go ride in a circle on my Bantam out in the car park - but when I looked over at the cop he was talking to my neighbour two doors up who was sitting the test after me....he had a Saint and the cop was checking it out.

I did an Advanced Driving Certificate a few years ago,and as someone mentioned I just exagerated everything I did - indicated if I moved the steering wheel,spent more time looking in the mirrors than at the road in front etc.It's gotta be a bike riding Cop that does the test minimum to be a true test of riding ability.Too confidant??? Got up someones nose I reckon.....

[campbellluke]

The reason she said you were speeding would be because you would have been pulling away from her. Not looking at your mirrors to notice it. To pull over and wait for her.

Back tyre $160? Jesus, it is a 250cc. Just enter a dealer ship and say "please get me a cheap back tyre". My 140/70/17 back tyre cost me less than $100. I get about 12-13Ks before it is failed with 0mm each warrant.

Also, next time shake her hand and greet her before you sit the test. So she doesn't think that you are squirming little shit. - That what I was told as advice before I sat my test.

My test took 45 minutes if I remember right. And the AA said it shouldn't take any longer than 20. Still nothing to get upset about. I passed it with no mistakes.

I think you should do your homework before you sit the test again. Be a "riding geek" I think you said? You are just playing their game.

[inlinefour]

do you not think you're over reacting a little? If you didn't conform to the law, then why should you pass? Not having a go here, just saying, she must have had good reason not to pass you. May be you should bursh up a bit for next time, and just keep your cool. A stop sign means just that. Make the point of stopping and putting both feet down before you move off. Exaggerate everything. While you know you're checking your blind spot (hope you are) with a quick glance, the officer probably isn't going to see that. But by the same token, don't over do it and turn round, cos that just isn't funny (to us it would be tho). They have a job to do many times over. Cut them a little slack no and again. You (well not, you, but others) moan and bitch when they're cut up on the roads by a bad driver, well these guys are trying to keep the standards up of new drivers, by not letting any old Joe Bloggs pass who's half blind and half a brain to keep the eye company. Just look at the whole picture. Just saying.

But, that's a huge no-no for leaving you like that. She should have pulled over, or got your attention and pulled you over to say why, then say what happens next. To just leave you like that is irresponsible. She should be noted on that to her superior.
Also, when I did my R and full, both times, the instructor gave me a set of directions to follow. When I got to the end of that, I pulled over and waited for him to come to me, and give me the next set. Why could you have not done that? A couple of times, I forgot which way to go, they just indicate in advance, and I follow that way. Even at the end, when he decided a different way back, I was in front all along, and he was fine about it.. I thought that was always the case.

Sounds like I was lucky enough to go for a ride with a MOT officer waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when I did my licience. Funny enough, he said that I was too confident also. Instead of getting all shitty, I asked him what he meant by that. What he said made perfect sense. I was too confident on the bike to be riding in traffic on the roads. I actually learnt from what he said and had to agree. He reckoned that since we had to ride back to the station anyway, I might as well have another crack at it. This time I checked on everything and did everything right. Including stopping at stop signs (hand brake engaged and both feet on the ground). Thats how you get your licience. Unless your able to get hold of that turkey that was handing them out for $$$ at AA...

[Coyote]

I would love to re-do my test on a R1

[Ixion]

sounds like a penis to me..................i sit my restricted in a few weeks hope i dont get the same arsehole!!!!!
Still sourcing a 250 to do the friggin test on

Y'can borrow Li'l ratty if y'want. he's a 250. Gotta warrant n stuff. Real easy to ride too. Full lock circles in 5 metres

[Lou Girardin]

Contact Driver Testing NZ and LTNZ, query her behaviour, especially leaving without warning mid-test. Saw your rear wheel move - bullshit. Over-confident? Double bullshit. Didn't you show the appropriate amount of fear?
This is what happens when people with no driver training or enforcement experience are hired as testers.

[ManDownUnder]

Back tyre $160? Jesus, it is a 250cc. Just enter a dealer ship and say "please get me a cheap back tyre". My 140/70/17 back tyre cost me less than $100. I get about 12-13Ks before it is failed with 0mm each warrant.

Tyres... I got one from these guys
http://www.starcycle.com/street.html

Cheap as chips and shipped to my hotel. Not sure what it'd cost to ship to NZ but if there's no hurry (i.e. "I'll need one for the next warrant") then what the hell...

Either that or I'll vouch for AMPS. I've got good deals through them for tyres and helmets in the past...
MDU

[inlinefour]

I was getting the WOF on the bike and it really bothers me that they fluff around looking at the bike, but never once actually look at the helmet that I wear. Now I'm not too concerned about my helmet as I don't use crap. But I'm rather surprised that even with all the LTSA bullshit, the helmet is never looked at...