Target fixation test

[FJRider]

See, that was the original point I was making. It's the same phenomenon as when some numpty pulls out in front of you when you're bearing down on them. It's a human frailty, and very few of us are exempt from it.

Staring continously ... at a green cross on a small screen with yellow dots does not ... can not' ... compare with vehicle waiting at an intersection/carpark/roadside and not being able to see a vehilcle approaching before it moves off. I would like you to explain how it can.

The only benefit to knowing is that the smart yellow dots will start to behave like we haven't seen them. They will stop riding like the world owes them courtesy, and they will be safer for doing so.

This is advice I CAN agree with. But if more got an automatic charge of the "Without due care" after claiming a SMIDSY ...

The world may not "owe" us a courtesy ... but New Zealand Traffic Law states clear times when it ... and when the rules of the basic rights of movement on the roads, should apply.

Maybe we can learn something from the yellow dots. Of course, the numpty yellow dots will just keep expecting everyone to see them, and will be the ones lying on the roadside while we say to them "Sorry Mate I Didn't See You".

I don't expect much from drivers of other vehicles ... But when I am traveling down any road on my motorcycle, with my headlight on (as required by law), with bright reflective panels on my jacket (not required by law) ... I do expect a car pulling out of a supermarket taking the time to look for traffic coming, instead of looking to see what junior(s) in the back seat (sometimes strapped in) is doing. A SMIDSY is right up there with the "But I was in a hurry" explanation.

[rastuscat]

Staring continously ... at a green cross on a small screen with yellow dots does not ... can not' ... compare with vehicle waiting at an intersection/carpark/roadside and not being able to see a vehilcle approaching before it moves off. I would like you to explain how it can.

It demonstrates an inbuilt human tendency. It's a small example of a huge problem. Certainly, nothing compares to someone pulling out in front of an oncoming vehicle.

It's a fine line between thinking someone sees you and expecting them to see you. If you think they see you, you act in a certain way, but if you expoect them to have seen you, you behave differently.

Sure, I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Just pointing out that human error leads to certain things happening, and that while I can't change that human error, my riding can change the outcome sometimes.

Hi ho, donut munching I go.

[FJRider]

It demonstrates an inbuilt human tendency. It's a small example of a huge problem. Certainly, nothing compares to someone pulling out in front of an oncoming vehicle.

It's a fine line between thinking someone sees you and expecting them to see you. If you think they see you, you act in a certain way, but if you expoect them to have seen you, you behave differently.

Sure, I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Just pointing out that human error leads to certain things happening, and that while I can't change that human error, my riding can change the outcome sometimes.

Hi ho, donut munching I go.

It's the "Inbuilt human tendency" to lie your ass off .... if you think it has the slightest posibility, it might get you out of the shit, I am more worried about.
The words expecting and assuming ... have a similar meaning in my book. Both can usually lead to dissapointment and/or pain.
"Human error" is one thing that we all experience at some stage. I just prefer it, if any "Human errors" only involve ME. Human ignorance worries me more.

[Zedder]

It's the "Inbuilt human tendency" to lie your ass off .... if you think it has the slightest posibility, it might get you out of the shit, I am more worried about.
The words expecting and assuming ... have a similar meaning in my book. Bot can usually lead to dissapointment and/or pain.
"Human error" is one thing that we all experience at some stage. I just prefer it, if any "Human errors" only involve ME. Human ignorance worries me more.

The truck driving expert on "Road Madness" last night said the same as what Rtc is talking about. Assuming the person at the intersection for example, is going to do somethig wrong makes you prepared. Assuming they will do the right thing is not healthy. Sad but true.

[rastuscat]

The truck driving expert on "Road Madness" last night said the same as what Rtc is talking about. Assuming the person at the intersection for example, is going to do somethig wrong makes you prepared. Assuming they will do the right thing is not healthy. Sad but true.

Tearfully grateful that someone agrees with me. I wuv u, Zedder.

[Zedder]

Tearfully grateful that someone agrees with me. I wuv u, Zedder.

Donuts Rtc!

[Subike]

It's a fine line between thinking someone sees you and expecting them to see you. If you think they see you, you act in a certain way, but if you expoect them to have seen you, you behave differently.



Hi ho, donut munching I go.

Agree with this rastus,
I never assume that I know what the person driving in the lane next to me is going to do.
Or the car at the stop sign, giveway, or traffic light. .
Since getting my learners, I am now riding everyday, and I treat every intersection as a potential hazard,
Either placing myself in a position where I can see the vehicle at the intersection till I am past it,
Or if I think the vehicle in front of me is blocking a vehicles view of me, I reduce speed and finger the brake.
I also go to the center of the road if a vehicle is entering from the left, to give more room just in case.
Or to the left if coming from the right, this includes car park entrances, and vehicles appearing from driveways.
Yeah, this means I am constantly thinking of where the safest place on any given road is for ME
I dont think people are out to get me, but I have been developing this habit of reacting instinctively to other vehicles movements.
I Know that one day this practice, of placing my self in what i consider the safest zone on the road for me, will be a my savior.
Sadly it will never protect me from the "sorry mate I don't fucking care" driver, or the " Im gunna ram you off the fuckin road "" driver.
But at least when they arrive, my practiced reflex will be to head immediately for the place of lowest risk.
I am also aware it will not protect me from "sorry mate I didnt see you"

[Mental Trousers]

Posted another thread about this as it seems I didn't search for the right thing.

It's good though.

[FJRider]

It's a fine line between thinking someone sees you and expecting them to see you. If you think they see you, you act in a certain way, but if you expect them to have seen you, you behave differently.

There has been a few times when I know dam well they HAVE seen me ... but I'm on a bike and they are in a car ... and they are going wherever the dam well want to go. When and if ... push comes to shove ... cars shove bikes better than bikes shove cars.

[Bassmatt]

There has been a few times when I know dam well they HAVE seen me ... but I'm on a bike and they are in a car ... and they are going wherever the dam well want to go. When and if ... push comes to shove ... cars shove bikes better than bikes shove cars.

+1 to this. I've lost count the number of times a car or truck has pulled out in front of me with the driver seemingly looking straight into my eyes.

[FJRider]

+1 to this. I've lost count the number of times a car or truck has pulled out in front of me with the driver seemingly looking straight into my eyes.

One small clue they HAVE seen you ... is when they give you the finger as they go by.

But ... the "I never saw him" to the cop ... when the shit hits the fan ...