Two2Cool, high oil temp solution??

**Pixie** · 21st July 2005, 23:59

Originally Posted by Brody@DivisionX

Thanks for posting up those links. I can understand it is hard it is to comprehend how it works, I am learning more each day. The thousands of people using it prove its worth. Just search on google or most of the online forums like thumpertalk and ktmtalk for yourselves, and you'll see exactly the same skeptiscism, exactly the same comments, exactly the same minor level of abuse towards the people who support the product. We only distribute it, we didn't make it. Look round other forums where the actual producer posts and you will find people like you people like me, people more clued up than all of us and their answers to all your questions.

Hopefully the thumpertalk and ktmtalk forums satisfy all your queries. For those of you with the old school barrier towards change up give them a look anyway. If the product is so hillarious these threads will give you hours and hours of laughter. I love comedy, and if there was a site that was gonna make me laugh that much I'd be on it now.

Back to work. Thanks for your time.

It's not so much that the product is hilarious,it's the pseudoscience that attempts to market it.I suggest you find some less knowledgable victims.

PS I love the "Thousands of believers and be open to change/have faith"
twist in the arguement,it almost sounds like religion

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 07:54

Originally Posted by Pixie

It's not so much that the product is hilarious,it's the pseudoscience that attempts to market it.I suggest you find some less knowledgable victims.

PS I love the "Thousands of believers and be open to change/have faith"
twist in the arguement,it almost sounds like religion

I'd think that youd have to have a fair bit of faith to be stupid enough to put this shyte into your bike. Not me for one, my bike is great just the way it is...

**Lou Girardin** · 22nd July 2005, 08:28

Why is healthy scepticism always a "fear of change"?
Personally I think it's fear of being scammed.
If this shit works, it should be subjected to independant, scientific testing. Like the fuel Savers were. Remember them?

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 09:02

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Why is healthy scepticism always a "fear of change"?
Personally I think it's fear of being scammed.
If this shit works, it should be subjected to independant, scientific testing. Like the fuel Savers were. Remember them?

I dont pay for good quality oils just to have to put this crap into it. I have NEVER heard anything or anyone using this product, nor any factual common sense reason to use it either. Some people might like to be woo'd by bullshit, but some of us ain't that stupid either. Fuel savers? Ain't that not pulling the throttle back too far?

**Motu** · 22nd July 2005, 09:42

Originally Posted by inlinefour

I dont pay for good quality oils just to have to put this crap into it. I have NEVER heard anything or anyone using this product, nor any factual common sense reason to use it either. Some people might like to be woo'd by bullshit, but some of us ain't that stupid either. Fuel savers? Ain't that not pulling the throttle back too far?

Check out the links I put up,this stuff is new here so of course you've never heard of anyone using it.The guy how makes the stuff is a Thumper Talk member.I'm not going to use this stuff ever,I use quality oil and change it often - but read a bit more about it....

**Brody@DivisionX** · 22nd July 2005, 10:58

Originally Posted by Motu

Check out the links I put up,this stuff is new here so of course you've never heard of anyone using it.The guy how makes the stuff is a Thumper Talk member.I'm not going to use this stuff ever,I use quality oil and change it often - but read a bit more about it....

Thats all I ask. Once again, thanks Motu.

I have always wondered what it's like to be close minded. I've always thought it must be like banging your head against the same wall everyday. I guess thats just the way some people are. I try my hardest not to turn away from possible innovations, I agree, some are crap, some are scams, but in my experience with this product I have seen nothing the otherwise. In my own trials, the american trials and the hundreds of independant tests.

If you think it's a scam, think it's a scam. But, people laughed at the thought that the world was round, until they studied and thought about it for themselves. Maybe the world still is flat, I'll have to look into that one.

Cheers Jimmy, I'll try stick round, but I have a habit of forgetting to check forums then getting so behind that it's not worth trying to catch up. But, after all we are all drawn here by the love of riding and thats what I'm off to do now. If this thread gets moved, deleted or otherwise so be it. I'm not here to piss anyone off on a site that seems like it produces a bit of thought provoking biker chat.

I'll probably be better sticking in the dirt section. I don't know much about road at all, other than I would like to get a 450 and try some.... Motard style

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 11:04

Originally Posted by Brody@DivisionX

Thats all I ask. Once again, thanks Motu.

I have always wondered what it's like to be close minded. I've always thought it must be like banging your head against the same wall everyday. I guess thats just the way some people are. I try my hardest not to turn away from possible innovations, I agree, some are crap, some are scams, but in my experience with this product I have seen nothing the otherwise. In my own trials, the american trials and the hundreds of independant tests.

If you think it's a scam, think it's a scam. But, people laughed at the thought that the world was round, until they studied and thought about it for themselves. Maybe the world still is flat, I'll have to look into that one.

Cheers Jimmy, I'll try stick round, but I have a habit of forgetting to check forums then getting so behind that it's not worth trying to catch up. But, after all we are all drawn here by the love of riding and thats what I'm off to do now. If this thread gets moved, deleted or otherwise so be it. I'm not here to piss anyone off on a site that seems like it produces a bit of thought provoking biker chat.

I'll probably be better sticking in the dirt section. I don't know much about road at all, other than I would like to get a 450 and try some.... Motard style

Never come accross a bike that would need this nor has anyone that I know.

**Brody@DivisionX** · 22nd July 2005, 11:07

Originally Posted by inlinefour

Never come accross a bike that would need this nor has anyone that I know.

Then it is of no interest to you. I get the point.

**Motu** · 22nd July 2005, 11:18

I've never come across a bike that would need it either,if you have an oil overheating issue then there is some other problem - with my Honda it was a voltage reg making the alt pump out max output,and getting the oil to 120c.The bikes with the most extreme use of oil are the modern 4 stroke dirt bikes,riders change their oil after every ride,using only the best oils available.There are even wet sump kits out there that take the oil tank out to save a bit of weight,and more than halve the oil capacity at the same time - then they race them!! that use will kill oil.If by some fluke this stuff does work,it'll be in a modern 4 stroke dirt bike - which is where he is aiming for.

I'm a sceptic through and through,I will heap scathing attacks upon anything I feel like - but I see both sides.....a debate is just that,the internet at it's best.

**TwoSeven** · 22nd July 2005, 14:01

Originally Posted by Brody@DivisionX

Thats all I ask. Once again, thanks Motu.

I have always wondered what it's like to be close minded. I've always thought it must be like banging your head against the same wall everyday. I guess thats just the way some people are. I try my hardest not to turn away from possible innovations, I agree, some are crap, some are scams, but in my experience with this product I have seen nothing the otherwise. In my own trials, the american trials and the hundreds of independant tests.

Sorry, but your wording is to 'clean' - your presenting information from someone else. You write the same way an evangilist would, which is why everyone thinks your scamming - heck, you even use advertising phases presented in most scams.

Your hundreds of independant tests is a classic. I read all of the mainline motorcycle journals and some scientific ones and I've never seen your product in any of them. So perhaps they are 'supermarket tests'.

In short - you dude are scamming.

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 14:04

Originally Posted by TwoSeven

Sorry, but your wording is to 'clean' - your presenting information from someone else. You write the same way an evangilist would, which is why everyone thinks your scamming - heck, you even use advertising phases presented in most scams.

Your hundreds of independant tests is a classic. I read all of the mainline motorcycle journals and some scientific ones and I've never seen your product in any of them. So perhaps they are 'supermarket tests'.

In short - you dude are scamming.

But the scientific bullshit explanations about the product perhaps suggest it

**vifferman** · 22nd July 2005, 14:17

There's something seriously wrong with this thread. I think it's in serious danger of becoming another "Scottish thread", as it's becoming a bit heated, and there's been absolutely no mention of important things, like beer and sex. :spudwhat:

I think I need to buy some more beer - I'm down to the last coupla bottles of Mac's Gold.

I think I need to have some more sex - haven't had any since I was on vacation.

There - SORTED.

As you were...

**Lou Girardin** · 22nd July 2005, 14:52

OK then, I think I'll FUCK off and have a BEER!

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 15:35

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

OK then, I think I'll FUCK off and have a BEER!

And if I can get a few beers into the misses, then I might be getting sex also

**XTC** · 22nd July 2005, 16:07

I don't think he's scamming..... He may really believe this bullshit.... Just like people believe there is a god... and that you'll get rich in a pyramid scheme or selling amway or paying lots of money to Action International for a buisness coach....