Warning about potentially dodgy seller

**DrunkenMistake** · 2nd January 2012, 22:28

Originally Posted by PeeJay

He doesnt "know"anything
He bought a written off bike and is wrecking it.

Any part you buy from a wrecker could have a dubious history.
Thats why they are cheaper than new parts.

Buying s/h bits from a wrecked bike
Buyer beware
What you see is what you get
No warranty, no guarantee its fit for any purpose
If you dont like what you see dont buy it

Simple

You might have a point if he was putting it back on the road

Point taken, as I said I dont think he is been a dishonest seller, but I just wouldnt want anyone to buy parts etc to find they will have a shit load of issues due to the previous damage.

If anyone does decide to get parts off the bike I can give you an idea of the condition prior to the theft.

**tigertim20** · 2nd January 2012, 22:52

Originally Posted by JMemonic

Ahh well that say a lot, I could see trouble for the seller given their appearance of a professional nature should someone purchase items that are damaged, corroded or just plain stuffed due to salt water damage.

yep. there would be a few items that might be ok, however the history of saltwater damage would at least impact whether you refurbished, or just bolted the item straight on, or might affect your decision to buy the part at all.

Originally Posted by PeeJay

He doesnt "know"anything
He bought a written off bike and is wrecking it.

Wrong. the seller DOES know, as he went out of his way to contact the owner who it was stolen from. the owner told the current trademe seller very explicitly what had happened to the bike.
the seller has decided to withhold information about the history of the parts that might be very relevant if you wanted to purchase parts, especially so if you wanted one of the electrical components. sure, he MIGHT be honest when actually asked, but salt water damage is something you really should be up front about if you are aware AND HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE - the underlined being the issue.

Originally Posted by PeeJay

Any part you buy from a wrecker could have a dubious history.
Thats why they are cheaper than new parts.

No, they are cheaper because they arent brand new. I agree any part COULD have a dubious history, but if you were to buy an engine off a seller, and found out when it arrived that it had bent valves, holed a piston and had a fucked gearbox, you would be quite unhappy to find out the seller KNEW the faults and CHOSE not to disclose it.
yes buying parts can be a minefield, however I would ONLY buy parts from sellers that are reputable, and appear to be honest and up front. there is information that could be highly relevant about these parts and the seller has chosen not to provide that information to the seller.

I partly understand the buyer beware, fair enough if the seller had bought it and NOT known the condition, however he does know the condition, and therein lies the issue

**breakaway** · 3rd January 2012, 02:41

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Comm...x?id=436781536

Report the listing. Don't let this guy rip people off.

**PeeJay** · 3rd January 2012, 06:56

Originally Posted by tigertim20

yep. there would be a few items that might be ok, however the history of saltwater damage would at least impact whether you refurbished, or just bolted the item straight on, or might affect your decision to buy the part at all.

Wrong. the seller DOES know, as he went out of his way to contact the owner who it was stolen from. the owner told the current trademe seller very explicitly what had happened to the bike.
the seller has decided to withhold information about the history of the parts that might be very relevant if you wanted to purchase parts, especially so if you wanted one of the electrical components. sure, he MIGHT be honest when actually asked, but salt water damage is something you really should be up front about if you are aware AND HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE - the underlined being the issue.

No, they are cheaper because they arent brand new. I agree any part COULD have a dubious history, but if you were to buy an engine off a seller, and found out when it arrived that it had bent valves, holed a piston and had a fucked gearbox, you would be quite unhappy to find out the seller KNEW the faults and CHOSE not to disclose it.
yes buying parts can be a minefield, however I would ONLY buy parts from sellers that are reputable, and appear to be honest and up front. there is information that could be highly relevant about these parts and the seller has chosen not to provide that information to the seller.

I partly understand the buyer beware, fair enough if the seller had bought it and NOT known the condition, however he does know the condition, and therein lies the issue

And why should he take your pals word as gospel ?

Could be the word of someone pissed off at losing out in the auction for all he knows.

He buys the bike at auction under the same conditions, ie no warranty, no guarantee, what you see is what you get, dont buy it if you dont like it.

Do you actually know the wrecker is the same guy who won the auction ?

Do you actually know this particular bike is the one that was allegedly in the drink ?

Do you actually know if the wheel he is selling is actually of the bike that was allegedly in the drink?

If you think about it the answer to all these is NO

Because without taking a trip to Tauranga to inspect the bike you wouldnt know

He may have a truckload of NC30 parts for all anyone knows

**DMNTD:Me** · 3rd January 2012, 07:12

Originally Posted by KiWiP

I can't see a front wheel having any issues after one nights dunking? What's the issue.

Yep, pretty much agree with you there.

On a side note...this guy happens to be be the choice of many of NZ's motorcycle racers when it comes to having dyno work done.
He was also the original owner of GP Honda in Mt Maunganui.
A couple of pointed questions (if he decides to auction off other bits) will show if he's going to be dodgy...which would surprise me.

**superman** · 3rd January 2012, 09:51

I asked "What's the reason for wrecking?"

His response "Because I'm a Motorcycle Wrecker"

"The bikes reason for wrecking..."
"."

Sounds like a douche.

**Katman** · 3rd January 2012, 09:53

Originally Posted by superman

Sounds like a douche.

u do

**riffer** · 3rd January 2012, 09:54

Originally Posted by Katman

u do

What? blub, blub, blub?

**KiWiP** · 3rd January 2012, 10:04

Originally Posted by breakaway

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Comm...x?id=436781536

Report the listing. Don't let this guy rip people off.

Why? I'm still not seeing this. He is selling a wheel ffs. When you buy a brand new bike from a dealer would you seriousley expect them to list every thing which made it not perfect, because that's what your implying this guy should do otherwise he's 'ripping you off' get real "Buyer Beware!"
If it's an integral safety component then maybe a wrecker is not the best plce to buy from if you don't know how to check or make safe those components.

again - Buyer beware!

on another note, from the auction (LOL)

Questions and answersAsk the seller a question
What's the reason for wrecking? fragger (39 ) 10:15 pm, Mon 2 Jan
Because Im a Motorcycle Wrecker. 10:36 am, Tue 3 Jan

**superman** · 3rd January 2012, 10:08

Originally Posted by KiWiP

on another note, from the auction

Doesn't read thread just posts.

**onearmedbandit** · 3rd January 2012, 10:15

Originally Posted by superman

Doesn't read thread just posts.

Doesn't consider other possibilities.

Your post was 17 minutes before his. I've opened up threads before, read them, gone to post a reply but been distracted for 20 minutes, then come back and finished off my reply.

**breakaway** · 3rd January 2012, 10:27

Originally Posted by KiWiP

Why? I'm still not seeing this. He is selling a wheel ffs.

It's a 'wrecking' auction. It's a matter of time until someone asks for the loom or CDI and gets burned. We all know what saltwater does to electronics and wiring not intended for use in a marine environment