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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Perhaps the old bugger wasn't so mad after all.
    Bits of it were unsealed then?

    I'd swap a wee punt on the Buell around there for one on a B31. Perhaps you'd be able to let the clutch fully out in 1st gear.
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    My wee two bits....

    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
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    One thing that always surprises me is the amount of money we are prepared to spend on saving lives of road users. You quote a cost between $550 million to $1.1 billion to fit the barriers to 370 Km's of road. This, apperently, would save 90 lives per year. We are currently spending $300 million/year in policing the roads and $290 million in road upgrades. The total road deaths are yearly around 400. I do agree that this is 400 that should not have died. But at the same time we have close to 500 suicides a year and we spend $1.38 million/year in prevention... (I also 2 days ago had a discussion with someone in the know who told me that over 400 people died yearly in hospitals as a result of wrong medication being distributed...)

    I therefore question the logic in spending millions per person saved on the road when there are areas where thousands would save the same amount of lives.

    Personally I advocate for better driver/rider training, compulsory follow up training, regular medical tests to determine if a person is fit to drive/ride, instead of more draconian mesures and huge spending on barriers, signs, rumble lines and other measures that only contribute to take away responsibility from the individuals.
    I wish I so wish New Zealand powers that be would listen... a good politician is one that can survive on an average persons wage, and still work as hard as that average man to make a great life for his/her family / country.

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    Does anyone know what it was that went throught the WRB on the River rd just north of Moonshine today?

    Only, it looks like they've done some damn fine work, there and I'd like them to come back and finish the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Does anyone know what it was that went throught the WRB on the River rd just north of Moonshine today?

    Only, it looks like they've done some damn fine work, there and I'd like them to come back and finish the job.
    Oooh. Didn't see it when I rode by around 5.10pm. I'll have a look tomorrow.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    As it is a danger to motorcyclists shouldn’t our new Motorcycle Safety Committee be jumping up and down and having a blue fit about this?
    That is why we pay them isn’t it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Very cheap. In NZ, you don't have to widen roads or anything. You just whack the fuckers in. The Minister of Transport and NZTA know that WRB are perfectly safe for everyone. They know this because there have been no studies done to suggest otherwise.
    and of course... due to the 'no fault' philosophy underlining ACC, we cannot sue Ministers or public servants when deaths ensue due to their premeditated-stupidity-shading-into-negligence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    I'm sure all those people killed on the roads will be well chuffed to know you're right....
    Possibly it would be more helpful if you addressed the apparent contradiction. If we claim credit when we say we achieved "A" but we avoid responsibility and blame the victims when the result is not only "B" but the polar opposite of "B"... how would you, SD, suggest we reconcile these positions?

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