'07 R6

[enigma51]

If you want storage space buy a GOLD WING its a sports bike for fuck sakes!!!!!!!!!! not a pack horse!!!!!!!!!!

[enigma51]

That made me feel better!!!

[James Deuce]

If you want storage space buy a GOLD WING its a sports bike for fuck sakes!!!!!!!!!! not a pack horse!!!!!!!!!!

Nice exclamation marks Cletus.

[James Deuce]

Must be a financial thing. My camera is in my phone which is in my pocket. I only ever buy lunch, and am hard enough to ride through rain showers without wets (or smart enough to drive if it's long distance and/or have the handbrake......ahem mrs. along for the ride)

....will be interesting to see what the gixxers style rating is like when (if) they stick their pipes under-ass.

Haven't seen a phone cam that takes decent pictures yet.

When I ride by myself I pack a lunch so I can stop where I feel like.

Why the hell do I feel that I need to explain myself?

[Waylander]

If you want storage space buy a GOLD WING its a sports bike for fuck sakes!!!!!!!!!! not a pack horse!!!!!!!!!!

OR just get saddle bags.

[That Guy]

Underseat does look better but I'd take a small storage box first. From an engineering perspective underseat is a lot harder to tune for max power as the pipe is too long. Straight out the side also means you stand a better chance of keeping hot pipes away from shocks. So if we're talking performance first, underseat is not best, out the side is.

[onearmedbandit]

Underseat does look better but I'd take a small storage box first. From an engineering perspective underseat is a lot harder to tune for max power as the pipe is too long. Straight out the side also means you stand a better chance of keeping hot pipes away from shocks. So if we're talking performance first, underseat is not best, out the side is.

2nd that. Sportsbikes they may be but leave a little space to carry odds and ends. They are after all road bikes, used by many as daily transport.

[mattt]

Haven't seen a phone cam that takes decent pictures yet.

When I ride by myself I pack a lunch so I can stop where I feel like.

Why the hell do I feel that I need to explain myself?

Cos you said something bad about about a sports bike maybe

Why don't kawasaki , ducati etc leave a small kevlar (non-stick) gap/compartment between their underseat exhausts and the seat. You could shove a pie or subway in the space and hey presto - warm lunch...

[mattt]

Underseat does look better but I'd take a small storage box first. From an engineering perspective underseat is a lot harder to tune for max power as the pipe is too long. Straight out the side also means you stand a better chance of keeping hot pipes away from shocks. So if we're talking performance first, underseat is not best, out the side is.

Why do some/most Motogp bikes pipes go out under the seat then?

[That Guy]

Why do some/most Motogp bikes pipes go out under the seat then?

Kind of true but not if we're talking in line 4s which is the case for all the jap sports bikes (save a couple of minor exceptions). Actaully most MotoGP bikes do both; depending on where the exhaust is collecting the burnt gas from, which is dependant on the configuration of the engine. MotoGP in line 4s (like ZX6rs, GSXRs, R6s/R1, CBR6/thou) like the Yamaha M-1, etc all go straight out the side. Mostly just V configs like the RC211V have an underseat (as well as an out the side) but this is because the rearward tilt of the v config of the engine means it is a relatively short distance to route out under the seat, for the rear cylinders. The Ohlins engineers will tell you how much they hate under the seat configs though because it cooks their shock oil. Even the GSV-R which is a V4 goes out the side.

[unhingedlizard]

my TDR has under seat pipes AND storage. I love underseat pipes but to be honest, its not something for or against for me. Suppose in the 600 market though these days there is so little seperating the top bikes something like this would make a lot of difference for some.