"One Fee For All"
In so much as that ACC levies are not equally apportioned, and they should be.
Hardcore Biker
"One Fee For All"
In so much as that ACC levies are not equally apportioned, and they should be.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
i believe all he wanted was a slogan to unite motorbikers.. not a debate.
Last of a dying breed
What we want and what we get seldom fully work out. But if you read it all there are some pearls hidden in. Small steps and all that...Originally Posted by TrentNz
Royal Enfield user
and this one wot as been said before and we have our slogan
"Enough is enough, no further. "
easy
done
finished
end of debate
Next
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
or maybe a simple
"FTP" Will suffice
Forum whore
Our failure to make any headway with TPTB up till this point has been due to the fact that we have done nothing but demand things of other people.
We are not in a position to demand anything of others.
If we are to try demanding anything it needs to be for a far greater standard of riding ability (and responsibility) from ourselves.
Forget about demanding it from others. The best we can hope for is that if we lead the way, others will follow.
It's time to start losing our egos.
Mad nagging bitch!
Why? All we (motorcyclists) have in common is our love of 2 wheeled conveyances.
Even that is not enough...cruisers, sprotbikes, tourers, scooters, commuters, dirt bikes, adventure bikes...
Everything else is different...values system, political views, income, religion, race, education,...
FFS we can't even wave to each other, let alone agree on one message.
Diarrhoea is hereditary - it runs in your jeans
If my nose was running money, I'd blow it all on you...
The instructions are simple...
To see a wave, first you have to be looking...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Come warm yourself by the fire
Never said you were wrong.
Just said what your were saying wasn't useful.
If they can tax health-care, they can tax us. And will continue to do so until we are dry.
I find it highly unlikely that a million+ citizens will protest on our behalf.......regardless on how nice we seem.
We are not a requirement of society, and there are people out there that want us gone.......unfortunately we seem to be paying their wages.
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dodgy is as dodgy does
Well I did. As a Dog fearing and lawn abiding citizen I duly sullied forth with Currency to the local postshop, but to my amazement before I was even half way there I came upon a building filled with light, laughter and music. I felt drawn into it, as though by a Higher Power and as I walked in the open doors I was warmly greeted by a smiling publican who was filling glasses with golden, sparkling ale. My thirst took control and before you could say "Paula Rose" I had a glass of beer in my hand, which in about the time it takes my Mighty Thunderbird to accelerate to the deadly speed of 105 kmh had poured down my parched throat.Hey, I didn't say you actually had to DO anything....
So sadly my motorcycle is still too dangerous to ride, but I don't give a fuck.
Back to topic, it's time we realised that the ridiculous registration charges are here to stay we need to move on by either refusing to pay and viewing the fines as a discounted registration or accepting that the cost of operating a motorcycle has increased.
The problem is that too many people ride like dickheads. It's pretty clear that our beloved leaders see us as being a bunch of idiots who refuse to grow up and buy SUVs, so what we want is irrelevant and unimportant to them which means the only attention we will get is either increasingly draconian rules to control our behaviour or rises in the costs of motorcycling. We WILL be required to wear shit like high vis vests, we WILL see limits placed on capacity and power of bikes, we WILL find it harder to modify our bikes, we WILL see our favourite roads targeted by the cuntstables etc, etc, etc.
Unless we change what we do.
First, we need to stop riding like dickheads, and that includes me. Recently someone crashed riding down a busy industrial street on their back wheel, a few weeks ago I was on my way from Akaroa and a tosser on a sportsbike overtook me on a corner with his knee down and I met a guy a few months ago who had just bought a new R1 despite not having ridden since he owned his GSX1100. He couldn't wait to have it run in so he could "see what it does".
Riding bikes is one of the most important things in most of our lives, but it can also be incredibly dangerous so it needs to be taken seriously. Just before Xmas a couple of mates of mine and I went out and got some bambi for the freezer, and I compared how we treated guns and shooting to how a lot of people treat motorcycling. Because we hadn't hunted together before we spent time checking out attitudes, experience and skill first. Then we discussed what would happen, who would do what, be where etc. Rifles were passed around, discussed and admired, but only after checking that they were safe - constantly. In 4 hours hunting we fired 2 rounds between us, and brought back 2 spikers (sadly my magazine stayed full). None of us emptied rounds into trees, tin cans etc, or played rambo.
Compare that to how people ride. When we ride with other people, how often do we check that they know what they're doing and know the rules of group riding? How often when we ride do we showboat and act like Rambo on a bike? Do we take motorcycling as seriously as (intelligent) hunters take hunting?
Then we need to start acting like professional and intelligent people who know what they're doing and have a plan. Being staunch and macho is all good, and having big protest rides feels great, but does that challenge the stereotype of poorly educated, immature trouble makers who are whining about taking personal responsibility? Or does it support that stereotype and entrench the attitudes against us? We need to be serious to be taken seriously, and I thing that's what this thread is about.
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
Forum whore
After you.......
Hardcore Biker
I kinda agree with this statement, I have had a convo with someone at some stage that sounded exactly like this ..... More so the rego discount for not binning it .
& FatMax Is right when he says ....... PIES PIES PIES! ,kidding this is what he said "
Hardcore Biker
What I DONT agree with is the following :
That does not help the system, Why you ask ? ........ well the powers at large will just say a big FUCK YOU & they will keep doing what ever they are doing anyway, If we can work "with them" ( A novel approach I know ) we stand a better chance of bringing them around & not ending up paying even more than we do now.
In regards to a protest PLEEEAAASSEE dont do what those "Occupy" fuckwits are doing as it does not work .
The instructions are simple...
Never going to happen. Not while it is the vehicle that is registered, and not the licence holder. And that is also something so unlikely to happen as to be never as well.
Ownership of a vehicle is not restricted to the licence holder.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
We knew all along that you were right... a right tosser.
"One person, one fee". We can only ride/drive ONE vehicle at a time.
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