Speed limit changes - or is it just me?

[rastuscat]

I believe that the authorities see the frequent changes of speed limits and the not-too-visible signs as a feature not a bug; it's primarily about revenue gathering, safety is used as the justification, and to make the revenue gatherers feel smugly satisfied with their control role.

Bro, Monique thinks you're dumb.

[RDJ]

Bro, Monique thinks you're dumb.

I suppose that could be a potential worry if I cared...

[SMOKEU]

I believe that the authorities see the frequent changes of speed limits and the not-too-visible signs as a feature not a bug; it's primarily about revenue gathering, safety is used as the justification, and to make the revenue gatherers feel smugly satisfied with their control role.

That's the main focus of road policing. If the government really cared about our safety they'd make a better effort to educate drivers and train them properly before they're let loose on the roads. Oh wait, that costs money.

[red mermaid]

No it doesn't because those been educated and trained would be made to pay the full cost of that activity....and then all on KB would whinge about the cost of education and training they have to do to get a bike licence and how they have been riding for years and never had a crash and are so very very safe, and its always someone elses fault.

That's the main focus of road policing. If the government really cared about our safety they'd make a better effort to educate drivers and train them properly before they're let loose on the roads. Oh wait, that costs money.

[Kickaha]

That's the main focus of road policing. If the government really cared about our safety they'd make a better effort to educate drivers and train them properly before they're let loose on the roads. Oh wait, that costs money.

If the people driving really cared about their and others safety they make a better effort themselves, it shouldn't be up to the goverment to sort it out for them

[Kickaha]

Bro, Monique thinks you're dumb.

Not just her that thinks that

If it's all about "revenue gathering" how do they explain fines being reduced a few years back, seems as though if they parrot that line about revenue gathering enough people start believing it whether it's true or not

[SMOKEU]

If it's all about "revenue gathering" how do they explain fines being reduced a few years back, seems as though if they parrot that line about revenue gathering enough people start believing it whether it's true or not

Because plenty of people were gathering many thousands of $ worth of fines that they couldn't afford to pay, so the courts had to keep writing off a shitload of fines. If someone is unemployed and gets $10,000 of fines, but only has $2,000 worth of assets then they have no way of paying that money back.

[Kickaha]

Because plenty of people were gathering many thousands of $ worth of fines that they couldn't afford to pay, so the courts had to keep writing off a shitload of fines. If someone is unemployed and gets $10,000 of fines, but only has $2,000 worth of assets then they have no way of paying that money back.

Show me a link to a credible source for that and I might believe it, but I really doubt that was the reason

[Brian d marge]

So you're saying you keep a box of donuts with you just in case?

Donut vouchers , can be redeemed at any donut shop

Stephen

[RDJ]

Not just her that thinks that

If it's all about "revenue gathering" how do they explain fines being reduced a few years back, seems as though if they parrot that line about revenue gathering enough people start believing it whether it's true or not

2 answers:

1. reduce the price and increase the number of 'sales' (in this case the sale is enforced of course) and you generate more revenue. That is the explanation...

2. it certainly can't be all about road safety. Check the University of Adelaide's "Traveling Speed and the Risk of Crash Involvement" upon which most of VicRoads' argument for lower speed limits and the use of speed cameras is based - which rationale has been lifted lock stock and barrel by NZ Govt. (You can find a copy online easily - the 'RARU' report.

Over three quarters of the crashes (table 4.4 in the report) used to justify the need for speed cameras was caused by a road user turning in front of or across the oncoming vehicle. Not caused by allegedly excessive speed on a clear road...

[speedpro]

Not just her that thinks that

If it's all about "revenue gathering" how do they explain fines being reduced a few years back, seems as though if they parrot that line about revenue gathering enough people start believing it whether it's true or not

It worked for "speed kills"

[scumdog]

Bro, Monique thinks you're dumb.

X2

'Puzzletime"...

[Kickaha]

1. reduce the price and increase the number of 'sales' (in this case the sale is enforced of course) and you generate more revenue. That is the explanation...

So after they reduced the price what was the increase in issued tickets?

enforced sale? pretty easy to avoid I have found

[HenryDorsetCase]

Is it just me or are other people noticing that more and more 80km speed limits are popping up through 100km areas?

I find that as I ride along I am running into a lot more 80km speed areas and in the majority of times these are along a state highway may last anything from a few hundred meters to 4 or 5 km.

There appears to be no warning of entering a reduced speed limit area and 1 speed sign as you enter which is easily missed.

Why is it that a state highway with a 100km speed limit which has been there since NZ changed the max speed limit from 80 to 100km and in some cases was there before the councils gave consent for building to happen along a state highway needs to be lowered when it creates more problems and little additional safety aspects and a stop go scenario on a state highway?

Are the government aiming to returning NZ roads to 80km again in a drip feed format?

Find out what the font is, get a bunch of stickers made up that correct it to 180, and do a mission to correct the incorrect signage: inspiration being the people who corrected the Nazional party posters just before the election.

[HenryDorsetCase]

my business partner got done 71 in a 50 last week. He not happy "but i was in a stream of traffic all doing that speed": its a section of road that is four lanes and separated by median: it should be 60 but of course the revenue generated would be less.