Yeah the car is the problem in this vid

[ducatilover]

that was a valid argument fuckwit.

No it wasn't.
Please explain to me as I am naive, why does dirt riding require more skill than road riding?

[TrentNz]

the terrain, hills, rocks, rutts, technical sections. you never know what you might come up against
mud, and as someone stated before on certain surfaces you might start to drift
where as on tar you have a lot more grip.

[Whisper]

the terrain, hills, rocks, rutts, technical sections. you never know what you might come up against
mud, and as someone stated before on certain surfaces you might start to drift
where as on tar you have a lot more grip.

Sounds like a ride on the Forgotten Highway to me.....bugga....should I change my bike?.....

[scumdog]

where as on tar you have a lot more grip.

Except on loose grit, diesel spill, wet tar-bleed....and one or two other impediments to optimum grip....

[bsasuper]

Sometimes it aint what it seams, A car pulled out in front of me then just stopped dead, what an arsehole I thought.Turns out the gearbox exploded stopping the car dead.Another time car up my arse flashing headlights on the horn, whats this arsehole doing me thinks, car passed and lady holding small child covered in blood.

[avgas]

Boring roads create boring people.
While I would like to say he is a reckless moron, he isn't.......he rides slower that glacier melts and he has no control over his vehicle.
He is a boring moron. Perhaps he should give up motorbikes and return to being a window licker at the back of the bus.

[avgas]

and by the way bike size has nothing to do with it.
dirt biking comes with its own challenges and definitely takes more skill then riding on the road.

Correct on the first part.......there are many riders on here that would kick peoples arses on a humble 125. (I'm not one of them)

The second part is horribly wrong and a massive misconception that many road riders have. Shit happens just as bad on road as it does off. And requires just as many skills.
This is why we have so many fuckwits on the road - they think its "easy". If they did off road their lack of skills would show immediately, on the road it only shows when they die.

[ducatilover]

the terrain, hills, rocks, rutts, technical sections. you never know what you might come up against
mud, and as someone stated before on certain surfaces you might start to drift
where as on tar you have a lot more grip.

Fair points...
How much road riding have you done? I've done a mere 200 thou all over the Norf island in all conditions and on lots of bikes and I have to say, with my experiences I disagree with you.
Dirt riding is challenging yes, but you have a more forgiving surface, less likely to have a Cefiro drift around a corner at you, you have a bike that will slide easily and not highside as easily, I bet you're going a shitload slower when a rabbit decides to jump out, or a cow.

But, if you really think it's easier, that's not my problem. They both present challenges.

[ducatilover]

Boring roads create boring people.
While I would like to say he is a reckless moron, he isn't.......he rides slower that glacier melts and he has no control over his vehicle.
He is a boring moron. Perhaps he should give up motorbikes and return to being a window licker at the back of the bus.

Sounded as gay as fuck too if you ask me...

[Edbear]

Perhaps she saw the words SLOW on the road, saw the village sign and the chevrons, saw the oncoming car in the wet going a bit fast and figured perhaps she was going a bit fast and as there was nothing behind her 15 seconds ago dabbed the brakes. If I had been driving I would have put the twat through the hedge as soon as he opened his mouth. Arsehole.

I had one of those bar protectors on my BMX when I was a kid as well.

Sometimes it aint what it seams, A car pulled out in front of me then just stopped dead, what an arsehole I thought.Turns out the gearbox exploded stopping the car dead.Another time car up my arse flashing headlights on the horn, whats this arsehole doing me thinks, car passed and lady holding small child covered in blood.

The rider was being an idiot; completely ignoring any and all road rules automatically puts you in the wrong. He was speeding and treating the road as his personal race track.

His riding skills in themselves, as opposed to his legality, seemed to be fine until he nearly collected that car, which was entirely his own fault. It is his attitude that sucks and gives bikers a bad rep. As bsasuper says, you don't know why a driver does what they do and too many times your conclusions are wrong. Arrogance has no place on the public road and this guy is an accident waiting to happen. Not only that but he will die blaming the other person.

[TrentNz]

Fair points...
How much road riding have you done? I've done a mere 200 thou all over the Norf island in all conditions and on lots of bikes and I have to say, with my experiences I disagree with you.
Dirt riding is challenging yes, but you have a more forgiving surface, less likely to have a Cefiro drift around a corner at you, you have a bike that will slide easily and not highside as easily, I bet you're going a shitload slower when a rabbit decides to jump out, or a cow.

But, if you really think it's easier, that's not my problem. They both present challenges.

ahh but you do have fuckwits in their 4wd's thinking they own the trails

and cows can jump??

[bogan]

ahh but you do have fuckwits in their 4wd's thinking they own the trails

and cows can jump??

Ahhh, a trail rider, that explains it! How about taking it to an MX track instead, rather than puttering up and down hills in the forest. That'll open you eyes to what skill is, and for extra challenge, try it on a 2T 125

[TrentNz]

i do take it to the motorcross track...
but i like to mix it up between trail riding and motorcross tracks.

[ducatilover]

and cows can jump??

Those cunts can fly

[onearmedbandit]

you don't know me, nor have you seen me ride?
how would you know what i know and what i don't
enlighten us, teach us your ways.

I think this sums it up well enough...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...k-%2815-jan%29

If that's the dirt riding experience you're calling on then I shudder to think how you can begin making comparisons with road riding.