I may look happy! But, I'm NOT!

**Coyote** · 23rd July 2005, 18:08

Ramius, get a Dodge Tomohawk. It does have 4 wheels after all so you wouldn't be breaking your promise

**zeRax** · 23rd July 2005, 18:50

id go with gav's second suggestion

Or if u wanan go the other way and hang onto her, yer, just get her more introduced, no probs then i bet

**Ramius** · 24th July 2005, 09:00

Originally Posted by alarumba

Ramius, get a Dodge Tomohawk. It does have 4 wheels after all so you wouldn't be breaking your promise

Hmmm Nice idea, I was thinking, what would be cheaper? Then I thought, how about strapping myself to a missile instead....
Nice looking bike though, goes to prove what happens when designers get bored.

**Pixie** · 24th July 2005, 10:47

1.The mistake you are making is that you have not locked your kid in the woodshed till she is able to perform menial tasks.I won't even go into your letting her dictate your life.There are a million things she is indebted to you for,one of which is a spermatozoa.

2. You really have to do something about that mixer that you have working overtime on those metaphores -you get things of your chest,and carry a chip on your shoulder.

**Pixie** · 24th July 2005, 10:51

Originally Posted by Pathos

Man, I would never teach my daughter how to enjoy bikes because she would start riding them and I wouldn't want her to take that risk. Its weird because I wouldn't hesitate to give my son a bike.

But plenty of time before I have to worry about that.

The irony is that,having a woman's behavioural traits,your daughter would be more likely to survive riding a motorcycle unscathed than your son would.

**Wolf** · 25th July 2005, 10:00

Originally Posted by Timber020

You made a promise, we dont make promises because they are easy to keep. Trust is the most important thing you can have with a 4 year old, and she wont forget it. Be a man, be a good father, be as good as your word and stop whining because your finding it tough to live up to promises that you made.

I wouldnt have made THAT promise in the first place (there could be a lesson there), A promise made is a debt unpaid.

I can take your point. I would not have made such a promise either, but the words are out now so there's not a lot of point saying "what if..".

My plan would be to get someone else who is into bikes to get Miss 4 interested in them so that she is the one pushing for the ban on bikes to be lifted. That way Ramius gets to get back into bikes at Miss 4's behest, not through his own actions...

Rather than breaking your word, get Miss 4 to insist you change your mind...

**MSTRS:Me** · 25th July 2005, 10:04

Originally Posted by Wolf

I can take your point. I would not have made such a promise either, but the words are out now so there's not a lot of point saying "what if..".

My plan would be to get someone else who is into bikes to get Miss 4 interested in them so that she is the one pushing for the ban on bikes to be lifted. That way Ramius gets to get back into bikes at Miss 4's behest, not through his own actions...

Rather than breaking your word, get Miss 4 to insist you change your mind...

How long til you get to sit in the BigChair?

**Biff** · 25th July 2005, 10:16

Simply make an ammendment to the deal; promise her you wont ride a bike again if she promises not to whinge or whine ever again. She's a little woman, it'll prove impossible. Problem solved. And you've also given her an important life lesson in something far too deep for a Monday morning.

(Biff ducks for cover as the fems get mad. He, he ,he.)

**Marmoot** · 25th July 2005, 10:24

Life is a sacrifice....a give-and-take, one way or another.
Think wisely.

There is no more valuable skill in this world than negotiation, especially if you can make sense to a Miss 4.

**Wolf** · 25th July 2005, 10:54

Originally Posted by Pathos

Man, I would never teach my daughter how to enjoy bikes because she would start riding them and I wouldn't want her to take that risk. Its weird because I wouldn't hesitate to give my son a bike.

But plenty of time before I have to worry about that.

I would not distinguish. We have 2 sons and another baby on the way - hoping for a girl. If any of them want to ride bikes (looking pretty likely for both our sons and they're not even potty-trained yet) they can - if we have a daughter she would be trained too.

I am of inclination not to let them get a car licence until they have held a full motorcycle licence for at least a year on the grounds that I want them to have good hazard identification etc.

I would also want them learning to ride properly etc, not just mucking about.

**ManDownUnder** · 25th July 2005, 10:54

Originally Posted by Biff

Simply make an ammendment to the deal; promise her you wont ride a bike again if she promises not to whinge or whine ever again. She's a little woman, it'll prove impossible. Problem solved. And you've also given her an important life lesson in something far too deep for a Monday morning.

(Biff ducks for cover as the fems get mad. He, he ,he.)

Run - run like the wind!

There's a saying that comes to mind "Many's the man who broke his nose with his mouth" (Billy Connoly)
MDU

**crashe** · 25th July 2005, 11:41

Originally Posted by Biff

Simply make an ammendment to the deal; promise her you wont ride a bike again if she promises not to whinge or whine ever again. She's a little woman, it'll prove impossible. Problem solved. And you've also given her an important life lesson in something far too deep for a Monday morning.

(Biff ducks for cover as the fems get mad. He, he ,he.)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If I was you, I would be running for dem hills me lad....
and never looking back over ya shoulder...

Just don't stop running....

**Ramius** · 25th July 2005, 12:26

Originally Posted by Wolf

I can take your point. I would not have made such a promise either, but the words are out now so there's not a lot of point saying "what if..".

My plan would be to get someone else who is into bikes to get Miss 4 interested in them so that she is the one pushing for the ban on bikes to be lifted. That way Ramius gets to get back into bikes at Miss 4's behest, not through his own actions...

Rather than breaking your word, get Miss 4 to insist you change your mind...

Thanks for that. This looks like it would be the best way. It will take time to acheive, but then again, I won't be in a rideable state for a while yet anyway...
I might get her grandpa to take her to see some bikes.

**Eurygnomes** · 25th July 2005, 12:31

Originally Posted by Wolf

Rather than breaking your word, get Miss 4 to insist you change your mind...

Very machiavellian...very female way of thinking! This is the one I'd go for (as a 4 year old girl) too. I never saw Dad crash - but I saw him smoke (and did the whole 'we're dying Dad' cough thing each time he lit up). Eventually he gave up and then I started smoking!!

Ta-dah! Must work for bikes too...?