A question for the cops

[davereid]

Should we not be encouraging these checks? Why are all these unlicenced, un registered, uninsured, unroadworthy, ACC sucking people using the priveledges us law abiding (sic) registered, legal riders have quaalified and paid for?

The aussies are on to it. Go on a poker run there now, and you can expect to be pulled over 15 times for a rego / wof / licence check.

That should make sure that anyone who's rego runs out during the run is caught, and makes for a fun day out.

Its not harassment, or a violation of anyones civil rights, its for public safety.

And the bikers are all known criminals, they just haven't been arrested as there is no evidence, but its just a matter of time.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1111117919010

[caspernz]

Should we not be encouraging these checks? Why are all these unlicenced, un registered, uninsured, unroadworthy, ACC sucking people using the priveledges us law abiding (sic) registered, legal riders have quaalified and paid for?

+1

[rastuscat]

The request for your licence is just revenue gathering ... $150 (I think) for not being able to produce your licence ... if you are asked for it.

Yawn. Never let the facts stand in the way of a good whinge. The fine is $55.

Before the mandatory carriage provisions it used to be a lottery to tell if anyone as going you crap details or not. It's making the licence system more robust. Anyone who doesn't produce a licence is potentially hiding something. Potentially, I said. Only way to know is to check.

Not sure how you do decent head checks before changing lanes with that massive chip on your shoulder.

[nadroj]

If you were a qualified, licenced tradesman working on a worksite, would you welcome the authorities checking everyone's credentials to ensure unqualified, unlicenced imposters were not allowed to pinch your work?

This should be the same with licence & rego checks to protect our enjoyable activities.

[Owl]

Last time I got stopped at a checkpoint (Shannon-January-2010), I was told it was a check for licence/registration which they did. I was asked if the bike had a current WoF, but it wasn't checked?

I told them my Missus was following behind and they wouldn't need to bother checking her, as she was all legal. They stopped her anyway to complement her on her choice of bike.

[rastuscat]

If I've done nothing wrong then as far as I'm concerned they have no right to impede me going about my business.

And how can they check if you have a licence without stopping you and actually talking to you? They have to see who the rider is before they can do the licence check. If they stopped doing that, every disqiualified driver would buy a bike, and ride around until they got their licence back, if ever.

Another thing that pisses them off is to ask for their id when they ask for your license.

Thanks for the legal advice. Here's some back. They are required to wear full uniform, or produce ID. Not both.

Still, my mates second cousin from Eketahuna says they have to carry their ID and have to show it to you when you ask. Also, he says they have to do 25 press ups if you ask them to, and clean your air filter. My mates second cousin says it, it must be true.


Land Transport Act 1998 Section 113 follows

13 Enforcement officers may enforce transport legislation
(1) An enforcement officer in uniform or in possession of a warrant or other evidence of his or her authority as an enforcement officer may enforce the provisions of—
(a) the Local Government Act 1974, the Local Government Act 2002, the Road User Charges Act 1977, the Public Transport Management Act 2008, the Government Roading Powers Act 1989, the Railways Act 2005, the Land Transport Management Act 2003, and this Act:
(b) regulations and rules and bylaws in force under any Acts mentioned in paragraph (a).

[5150]

Tractor license, innit?

I was about to say that but you beat me to it

[rastuscat]

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...&p=1#DLM435099

[GrayWolf]

What kind of road machine licence do you need to ride a Harley?

An Agricultural machinery operators licence!

[BMWST?]

the operation of a motor vehicle on her majesty's highways is a privelege not a right

[Madness]

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...&p=1#DLM435099

That link is like the ongoing attempts to convince us that Teh Police are genuinely interested in our safety & wellbeing. It just isn't working.

[rastuscat]

That link is like the ongoing attempts to convince us that Teh Police are genuinely interested in our safety & wellbeing. It just isn't working.

Excuse me? Sorry, I posted the law. Like it or not, it's the law.

I posted it to help people to understand it. Obviously that point escaped you.

Nice username. Suits you.

[scumdog]

Love it, good passive resistance. I have never agreed with their right to stop me "randomly". If I've done nothing wrong then as far as I'm concerned they have no right to impede me going about my business. Another thing that pisses them off is to ask for their id when they ask for your license.

"Another thing that pisses them off"??....Hahahaha......fuck off!

If you asked me that I'd just say "no" and give you a look.

It would take waaaay more than THAT to piss ME off

[Madness]

Excuse me? Sorry, I posted the law. Like it or not, it's the law.

I posted it to help people to understand it. Obviously that point escaped you.

Nice username. Suits you.

You don't get it do you? The link you posted doesn't work.

[sil3nt]

the operation of a motor vehicle on her majesty's highways is a privelege not a right

Tougher penalties might make people realise this.