Should we be changing the Give Way rule? (POLL)

[Scuba_Steve]

This is exactly one of the problems with the current give way rule. If each day you've got thousands of cars turning left at an intersection pausing, possibly unnecessarily, for even half a second, you've totally screwed the flow of traffic.

so a few half secs (out of the way) screws traffic flow, but a few minutes holding up traffic wont

[Clockwork]

Exactly - you are part of the problem. Along with the chumps who sit in the left lane on a dual-laner and wait for the right turners coming towards them..instead of going into their left lane and letting the oncoming assume the right lane. Can go through 2 sets of lights waiting for these bozos to move off.

No, I'm more than familiar with that rule chum. Along with the fact that the current rule says I may turn left ahead of a right turning vehicle if I can turn in the shadow of a vehicle following me.

What I'm not familiar with is how knowing and obeying that rule can make me part of any problem.

[Sliver]

Hey 118..wonder if we can get to 150

[YellowDog]

I agree with the turn left rule being scrapped. The idea of letting someone turn right across your path is a common courtesy, which IMO won’t change (except in large cities). It happens in countries without the turn left rule, so I can't see personal courteous human instincts changing.

There will certainly be a few more accidents during the bedding in period.

Maybe a few less foreigners maimed and killed also

[tigertim20]

I agree with the turn left rule being scrapped. The idea of letting someone turn right across your path is a common courtesy, which IMO won’t change (except in large cities). It happens in countries without the turn left rule, so I can't see personal courteous human instincts changing.

There will certainly be a few more accidents during the bedding in period.

Maybe a few less foreigners maimed and killed also

whoah whoah whoah whoah whoah!
are you insinuating that NZ drivers are courteous? put down the crackpipe!!

[YellowDog]

OK - The pipe's on the table now

My experience is that most car drivers are indeed courteous to other car drivers. Not to motorcyclists though

The other big plus of the new rule is that if you forget to cancel your indicator, you will be less likely to end up- as ROADKILL

[Jantar]

Most drivers are courteous. However there are enough that aren't that its too easy to make a sweeping generalisation. I do believe that given the opportunity to think for themselves that even drivers will show some common courtesy on our roads.

My experience is that truckies are the best, cage drivers are average, bus and taxi drivers are the worst. Motorcyclist cover the whole range from very good to very bad.

[Berries]

My experience is that truckies are the best.

All truck drivers are cunts.

[_Shrek_]

All truck drivers are cunts.

thin ice hot skates there Berries, or just trolling

having said that there are one or two around that are, but the same could be said for cars & bikes as well,

& as for the dumb arse law they brought in 35 years ago about time they got rid of it,

pitty we can't see who voted what!!! but I'm picking most are over 40ish that voted yes

[mossy1200]

French go anti clockwise around roundabouts we should do that on the weekends and clockwise on week days

[Berries]

What day can we eat horse meat?

[Scuba_Steve]

What day can we eat horse meat?

Tuesday but only if the suns out & not before 1600

[Brian407]

pitty we can't see who voted what!!! but I'm picking most are over 40ish that voted yes

More likely to be 50 or over, and got thier licence at age 15 (as I did) and/or have experience driving in other countries where the new/old rule works perfectly well. (as I, and many others here have).

[YellowDog]

More likely to be 50 or over, and got thier licence at age 15 (as I did) and/or have experience driving in other countries where the new/old rule works perfectly well. (as I, and many others here have).

Those with "Goldfish Bowl Syndrome" might struggle with understanding anything other than what they already know

[Trade_nancy]

No, I'm more than familiar with that rule chum. Along with the fact that the current rule says I may turn left ahead of a right turning vehicle if I can turn in the shadow of a vehicle following me.

What I'm not familiar with is how knowing and obeying that rule can make me part of any problem.

We are all part of the problem "chum" for having to rely on rear vision in order to make decisions about what happpens up front! We create a safety problem - or the potential for it - by relying on our (largely) inadequate rearview mirrors to decide if we are safe to turn in front of a vehicle or not. I too have to use the method u described -a quick rear check and if it looks like the vehicle behind is coming beside me,.. I can do a left turn. But that it unsafe always was and will be if it continues. Often the following vehicles don't indicate, or they do,..but still don't turn.
Get over it - the law was a bad one that is why it is going out the window. If you are arguing that the current system is good, or can be made good - that's your right - but you are defending a dead rubbber. It is being reversed because it was a failure....and was from the outset in 1977 when I 1st saw it introduced as a biker and cager at that time. It was hugely and widely ridiculed. It was dumped everywhere else decades ago. It has come to be accepted I guess by younger people in particular who have gotten into driving/riding since 1977...or older people who just can't see past their arse...cos they always looking out back.