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    If there were no slip lanes then the point where one vehicle has to give way to another is obvious. In this example the left turner has been taken out of the equation, right turners just have to give way to straight through traffic. Then, once they have completed their turn they come to the slip lane, or what is in fact a side road, on their left. Here they have priority. They are not turning and the markings indicate the through route. Therefore those vehicles that have turned left at the intersection have to give way to vehicles here, which could just of easily come straight through the intersection from the other direction. Merging is a bit of a red herring as this implies those with priority have to let them in, in this example they don't.

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    Over the last few months, Give Way signs have been popping up on a lot of the free left turn lanes that were previously uncontrolled. This makes it quite clear that traffic using those lanes has to give way to all traffic coming from the right. A good move IMHO.

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    And you are going to see a shit load more going up over the next ten days. The only problem is that there will be intersections that look exactly the same from above, some will have new give way controls, others will be the same as they are now. There is quite a bit of confusion as to who should do what when there is no give way sign but some separation, as evidenced by this thread and my own conversations with NZTA and the Police. As a bike rider I'll just treat all intersections the same as I have ever done, I know what to do but will assume the other person is an idiot and doesn't.

    Should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post

    Should be interesting.
    That is scarily close to the old Chinese curse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    And you are going to see a shit load more going up over the next ten days. The only problem is that there will be intersections that look exactly the same from above, some will have new give way controls, others will be the same as they are now. There is quite a bit of confusion as to who should do what when there is no give way sign but some separation, as evidenced by this thread and my own conversations with NZTA and the Police. As a bike rider I'll just treat all intersections the same as I have ever done, I know what to do but will assume the other person is an idiot and doesn't.

    Should be interesting.
    Just pay extra attention to your rear as well. The driver behind you will have made assumptions about what you will do based on what they think you should do and what they think the other person is doing.

    I wonder if I am more afraid of the possibilities than the reality, the drivers NZ is cursed with you know they aren't going to indicate and they are going to try and force their right as they perceive, which in a lot of cases is that it is all about them and screw the law because they have the SUV. you only have to look at the reasons most of these self centred retards buy the SUV in the first place.

    Werther we like it or not we are doomed to live in interesting times, especially on the road on a bike.

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    I predict that the change will go ahead with very little confusion and in a month's time we'll all be wondering why we stuck with the old rules for so long.

    But you know what Yogi Berra/Albert Einstein/Mark Twain/Groucho Marx said about predictions

    http://www.larry.denenberg.com/predictions.html

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    And I predict a lot of people are going to find it a whole lot harder to make right turns.
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