Crash kit

[Pseudonym]

A cut artery is not such a problem. Simply apply pressure with your hand. In my case, I probably wouldn't do anything else. I'd just wait till the ambulance arrived. It doesn't matter how you've stopped that bleed, just as long as it is stopped.

But a large chest wound? Your probably going to be carrying around a very big first aid kit if you want to be able to cater for the most serious of accidents. A large white van with a red cross on the side would probably be about right. Your probably going to need a lot of training to deal with an accident like that as well.

Very commendable.

http://www.celoxmedical.com/

Go there, read what the product does.
This is for the large chest wound and/or arterial bleeding that you just can’t stop the blood pumping out of.
I do like the “simply apply pressure” though.
Try it some time, it’s not a little pressure you need, and it isn’t that simple.

Yea, full medic training would be nice but just on the off chance you don’t have it then this will be the next best thing.

Why the fuck am I arguing with you?
If you don’t want one then don’t get one!
I’m trying to get some others ideas on what they might like in a little kit that may save someone.
And why are you arguing?

One shot to try and convince this arrogant idiot and if I have no luck I’ll quit now.

Right, you and your mate are out on a sunny day in the country zipping along some lonely road.
You round a corner and climb a small hill.
Over the top you find some local in his ute has pulled out of his drive towing a trailer.
Your mate who was in the lead hasn’t the time or distance to stop and nowhere to go as the ute was turning right with the back of the trailer still at the edge of his drive.
Your mate hits and gets his left leg caught between the top edge of the trailer and his bike, snapping and twisting his femur and punching it through his inner thigh cutting the femoral artery.
You have to do two things, stop the blood loss from under the leathers and get help.
Help is 30 minutes away.
Your kit, as good as it was when you got a bee sting last week, is as useful as pissing into a volcano.
Your mates’ death: The result of a failure to plan.

And no, you don’t do anything else, you do just wait for the ambulance to arrive.
Nice to know you learnt one thing from your course.

[rachprice]

So are you trying to build a kit in the hope of selling them??

Jimmy's wife - riffraff if I remember correctly is a paramedic she might have some ideas....



Putting a hell of a lot of pressure on a severed femoral is still pretty good, however you lose a lot of blood through breaking any bone - 1-2l through the femur

Unless you do a first aid course you aren't really going to know what to do when it comes to serious injuries

What serious injuries you looking to cover?
-Bleeding
-Exposure (emergency blanket)
impaired airway?

Definitely scissors/knife as mentioned - anyone that is pissed you cut off their leathers when seriously crashed need to get over it, if barely conscious or screaming in pain, those things need to be coming off.
CPR face shield for sure, though I know it wouldn't stop me not having one - on the other hand pretty small to fit into a kit

[Pseudonym]

I’m away from a computer for a couple of days, but keep em coming and I’ll run the ideas past those who know and in a week or so we’ll hopefully see what they come up with.
Ta

[sleemanj]

Femur through leg and copious bleeding? Take your belt put it higher than the wound, find a strong branch or fence waratah, put it through the belt, and start twisting.

When your skills are limited, your equipment is limited and your time is limited, you gotta think, what would McGuyver do?

[Virago]

Femur through leg and copious bleeding? Take your belt put it higher than the wound, find a strong branch or fence waratah, put it through the belt, and start twisting...

Such over-enthusiastic tourniquets generally do more harm than good.

[Ocean1]

Femur through leg and copious bleeding? Take your belt put it higher than the wound, find a strong branch or fence waratah, put it through the belt, and start twisting.

When your skills are limited, your equipment is limited and your time is limited, you gotta think, what would McGuyver do?

Such over-enthusiastic tourniquets generally do more harm than good.

I asked. "A tourniquet isn't likely to work well on a femoral artery, if he's unconcious spend 30 seconds trying to find it and pinch it closed with your fingers. If you can't do that wad up a shirt or somat and shove it into the groin, hold it there until a medic tells you to stop."

[Sliver]

what about a flare, for visibility from obscure places.

lol nice.

[SMOKEU]

I carry a stash of codeine and paracetamol so if I fuck myself up badly I've got some pain relief with me.

[avgas]

Cigar and Jack Daniels.

Jack is for the pain and Cigar is if you can hear the fat lady sing.

[Gremlin]

The problem with the standard kits is they often lack anything more than a few Band-Aids and some dinky little scissors.
The little kits are a good idea and handy to have (I have one in my tail pack) but not much use for the more life threatening injuries.

What I’m hoping to get out there is more of a supplementary kit to stop major blood loss from penetrating injuries that can occur from broken bones on their way out or bits of bike etc on their way in or where the road or other object has taken a chunk out of someone.

But a first aid course is a must.

Well, as I put in my blog, I'm not a medic, and when coming across an incident/accident, see my primary duties as raising the alarm for trained medics to come (be it through mobile or PLB), preventing further injuries and managing the scene to try keep things safe.

Being keen as to assist the person, but not having full training, I could do more harm than good. Realistically, we're a small country. Help is never a day away, more like 1-2 hours away max.

[Ocean1]

Realistically, we're a small country. Help is never a day away, more like 1-2 hours away max.

Smaller since they started using choppers.

Choppers cost ACC an unspecified but significant hit every year, because more people get to the ED within that first hour and survive to consume vast quantities of very expensive healthcare.

[bsasuper]

I'll buy if you include Bear Grills Knife

[Flip]

My 10c

A brain, a emergency blanket, a clean tee shirt and a couple of rolls of insulation-duct tape. Also my trusty razor sharp folding hunting knife. The blanket the shirt and the tape are optional extras.

A couple of years ago I kept a lady alive in a car accident just by holding her head up, but she was seriously fucked up by her injuries.

I also carry a wee first aid kit in the scooter, it has some antihistimine because I am alergic to wasps.

If I had to I could stop a bad bleader but I would want my long nosed vice grips back autoclaved.

[Flip]

Oh first aid 101

S afety-yours.
A irways
B reathing
C irculation

[Mooch]

Right, I’m putting together a crash kit for us to carry around as we zip through the countryside.
This isn’t to whip out for every little nick and scratch you get, this is for when you round a corner and one of your group is down or you find a car on its roof.
This is to keep them breathing and stop blood loss while you wait for the professionals to come.

I want to keep it light and small, something you can have in a little pack/bum bag, taped to your inner fairing or under your seat.

I want to know what you would want to have in it.
Small and light remember, not all of us have Goldwings and 10 years of paramedic training for a full kit.

I can have them put in a waterproof sealed one use pack.
Celox Z-fold gauze, this is used in nice happy places like Afghanistan and Iraq by the medics to stop leaks, good proven stuff, maybe two of them.
Gloves and a CPR mouth guard, got to keep yourself safe too.
Something to cut our gear off, what I’d like runs at $200USD per unit so ether some leather eating scissors or maybe a blunt tipped rescue knife? Any suggestions? (I’ll look into the St Johns supplier for their shears)
One of the emergency blankets, they keep rain off and can been seen from the air.

One use, no opening them just for fun and the outside will be labelled with the contents.
Two reasons for having them a one hit use, firstly it keeps them sealed and watertight.
Secondly, and most importantly, everything you pull out is going to be contaminated.

I’m getting advice from paramedics and rescue organisations, but any ideas that you have please let me know.

Sorry, no idea on cost yet.

Have the second kit listed here. http://www.lifeflight.org.nz/shop.php

Have added razine to the kit for bee stings and the like. Quite handy to have anti histemines esp. if you come across people that react badly to being stung.