Give Way rule change

[Kickaha]

Scuse me Mr Rastuscat sir but can we have an answer to this one from earlier "What's the best way to turn right into a dual lane road where you want to go into the first driveway on the left which is about 15m from the intersection?"

I will buy you a donut if you answer it

I make one turn like that to access a site, there isn't time to turn into the closest lane, then indicate the required three seconds to change and make the driveway unless I want to make a complete circuit around the block, sometimes (but not always) I am turning on a green arrow

[tigertim20]

Stop Signs are funny sometimes... it's illegal to slow down to 2 km/h for the last couple metres (taking 4 seconds) and then taking off. But to hoon up to it, slam on the brakes to a complete stop on the edge and flooring it to take off (with no loss of traction) is completely legal. Better keep it legal...

actually you can came to the attention of the popo for 'excessive acceleration', a friend of mine was pulled up for that the other day. he didnt speed, was within the limit etc.
Theyd probably have an issue with screaming into the intersection and jamming on the anchors to. Theyd probably call it careless driving

[cheshirecat]

We've been asked to have another look at hammering the law that says that if you turn into a multi lane road, you have to turn into the adjacent lane i.e. turning left into a dual lane, turn into the left lane, if right, turn into the right lane.

How would you feel if we stopped you and billed you for $150 for turning into the wrong lane?

The new law means that the car turning left into a multi lane can do so without having to worry about the car coming the other way and turning right, as both can go, as always they should have.

What say you?

Go for it. Tickets could also be issued for those dawldling at lights, gribbling to a halt approaching a perfectly clear roundabout, dithering at junctions, braking to 30 kph part way round a 70kph corner and that new law comming in stopping reversing out into a road/highway. Doughnut paradise I say.

[rastuscat]

Scuse me Mr Rastuscat sir but can we have an answer to this one from earlier "What's the best way to turn right into a dual lane road where you want to go into the first driveway on the left which is about 15m from the intersection?"

I will buy you a donut if you answer it

I make one turn like that to access a site, there isn't time to turn into the closest lane, then indicate the required three seconds to change and make the driveway unless I want to make a complete circuit around the block, sometimes (but not always) I am turning on a green arrow

Cool, donut incoming.

Wait until there is nothing coming, make the turn as necessary to get into your driveway.

Right, that's morning tea sorted.

Again, remember that for every rule there is always going to be an exception. In your case, it's coz you legitimately had to do it to get to where you were genuinely headed. The numpties that piss me off most are those that crowd into the wrong lane because they need to be in that lane to get into their driveway which happens to be 1467 metres further up the road.

Extra cinnamon please.

[rastuscat]

WoooooooooHooooooooooo..................I see the donut buyer is in Rangiora too.....................even better chance of it happening...........

[Scuba_Steve]

The numpties that piss me off most are those that crowd into the wrong lane because they need to be in that lane to get into their driveway which happens to be 1467 metres further up the road.

Extra cinnamon please.

Almost as good as the ones here that have to be in the right lane cause they're turning right...

... 15km away

[sinfull]

We've been asked to have another look at hammering the law that says that if you turn into a multi lane road, you have to turn into the adjacent lane i.e. turning left into a dual lane, turn into the left lane, if right, turn into the right lane.

How would you feel if we stopped you and billed you for $150 for turning into the wrong lane?

The new law means that the car turning left into a multi lane can do so without having to worry about the car coming the other way and turning right, as both can go, as always they should have.

What say you?

I say your breaking the law to be quick enough to catch me (for) doing that, I would also argue that the prick in front of me needs to learn how to merge or the new R/H rule when it comes in and that perhaps you should go and teach him before i drag him out of his car and give him a quick lesson ! As that's the only reason you'd have cause to ticket me for that shit !

Fuck that feels better !!! Road rage inabsentia !

Yeah ticket the fuck wits !

[tigertim20]

Scuse me Mr Rastuscat sir but can we have an answer to this one from earlier "What's the best way to turn right into a dual lane road where you want to go into the first driveway on the left which is about 15m from the intersection?"

I will buy you a donut if you answer it

I make one turn like that to access a site, there isn't time to turn into the closest lane, then indicate the required three seconds to change and make the driveway unless I want to make a complete circuit around the block, sometimes (but not always) I am turning on a green arrow

enter that road from a different intersection, giving you plenty of time to navigate your way across lanes and get to where you wanna go?

[sinfull]

enter that road from a different intersection, giving you plenty of time to navigate your way across lanes and get to where you wanna go?

You're from Gore aye ?

[Berries]

Contrary to popular belief, I don't give a fat rats arse about the revenue. I don't get a cent of it, and my salary doesn't depend on it, so why would I care? Nobody in the Police counts the fine revenue, that's why I get so pissed off at being called a revenue collector.

I was referring to the people who have asked you to hammer this particular law -

We've been asked to have another look at hammering the law that says that if you turn into a multi lane road......,

Hardly for crash reduction purposes is it?

[steve_t]

Cool, donut incoming.

Wait until there is nothing coming, make the turn as necessary to get into your driveway.

Wait where? At the lights holding up all the traffic behind you? Or in the middle of the intersection?

[Berries]

No, they get ticketed because the sign is a STOP sign. its not a 'stop sometimes' sign, or a 'stop if theres a cop around' sign, or a 'just sllow down a bit, she'll be right' sign. If you cannot read the sign, and adhere to it, you probably shouldnt be on the road. If, at that same intersection, you were to get taken out by a car that rolled through the stop sign, Im sure your perspective would be different

You're missing my point. Stop signs also mean that (from memory) from 9m back from the limit line you can't see 1.2x the speed limit in distance, so 60m in a 50km/h area. My gripe is when they are put in where there is good visibility, against good practice recommendations, and then enforced rigidly. I don't generally agree with the revenue gathering comments, the law is the law and all that, but when signs, or speed limits for that matter, are put in place that are at odds with either good practice or legal requirements then I do have an issue with the enforcement of them.

[Kickaha]

enter that road from a different intersection, giving you plenty of time to navigate your way across lanes and get to where you wanna go?

It isn't really practical to do that, Id have to drive past our building and make another trip around a different block, the location is shyte

You're from Gore aye ?

Easy mistake to make, I think everyone south of Timaru is related

[Shadows]

The thing that worries me most about the upcoming change is that the munters will be concentrating so hard on the application of the new rule that they'll completely forget what give way signs are for.

[tigertim20]

You're missing my point. Stop signs also mean that (from memory) from 9m back from the limit line you can't see 1.2x the speed limit in distance, so 60m in a 50km/h area. My gripe is when they are put in where there is good visibility, against good practice recommendations, and then enforced rigidly. I don't generally agree with the revenue gathering comments, the law is the law and all that, but when signs, or speed limits for that matter, are put in place that are at odds with either good practice or legal requirements then I do have an issue with the enforcement of them.

I understand your point completely, but 1) visibility is not the only consideration for safety at intersections, and 2) the criteria you mentioned you will probably find is only a starting point, there will be other criteria used as well in deciding where they are put.

rightly or wrongly, if its there, adhere to it, or accept the consequences for choosing to ignore it - why is that so difficult for people to understand?