Hmm. I've had a change of attitude on this hi-viz thing

[Hitcher]

Arghhhhh, my eyes ... my poor eyes.

I'm more worried about your poor brain.

[Madness]

I wonder how much it cost to have 3 sworn Police Officers and a middle-aged woman from ACC who looked like Barbara Woodhouse at a checkpoint in Albany yesterday (sunday) pushing free vests and "safety checks" onto unsuspecting bikers.

[Oakie]

I have one of these as my winter jacket and it is warm and waterproof and very comfortable but.... after wearing it for 4-5 months the yellow hi vis part (which is much brighter than the photo shows) has faded badly and I expect after another season it will have faded to the point of being useless.

Interesting. Thank you.

[Renegade]

there was talk about painting the fire engines yellow like some parts of the USA and UK, as is the norm for ambos and cop cars now.

If you cant see and hear a f**kn fire engine coming even painted shiney red you should hand in youre licence now imo

[jaffaonajappa]

I've been a little sceptical over how much difference a

Dude. What if your parents find out? What if ya misses finds out?!

Tassles and high-viz. nty.

[Gremlin]

I did give thought to getting one of the two Revit Jackets that have high viz incorporated into the jacket, asked some mates for opinions. After the initial laughing and shit slinging was done, it was pointed out that you'd have to clean it regularly for it to have any effect (like more than once a year). Since my jacket is washed perhaps every few years, it was best just to get another black one.

Mate threw in a one of those Look for motorbikes viz vests when I bought it (ok, he practically forced me into it), and while it flaps a bit (I think Oxford makes a stretchy one) I use it now and then for various reasons. I think people mistake me for a cop, so it's had a seriously good upside... which I didn't think it would have

[Conquiztador]

The scariest re this is that clearly the propaganda is starting to work.

[Usarka]

That is partly what I'm tryng to avoid by getting a jacket with the hi-viz treatment. Wearing a yellow flappy bib would just annoy the pus out of me.

If they were to become mandatory they'd need to define what hi-vis means, and have ways of proving it if it goes to court. The most likely scenario (because it's easy and cheap and they are stupid and lazy) will be workplace hi-vis vests that carry a NZ Standards cert.

Unless europe introduce a standard for reflctive bike clothing in the interim.

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Interesting topic.
Last week I was siting in my car having the good old mrs macs steak and pepper pie, when something caught my eye in my peripheral vision (i mean really jumped out at me) it was a couple on a bike wearing high viz yellow helmets and man they stood out.
Can't be a bad thing surely?

[Conquiztador]

Interesting topic.
Last week I was siting in my car having the good old mrs macs steak and pepper pie, .........
.......Can't be a bad thing surely?

There

[Tigadee]

...when my eyes were suddenly assaulted by two patches of yellow...

Yeah, happened to me the other day too...

[Tigadee]

there was talk about painting the fire engines yellow like some parts of the USA and UK, as is the norm for ambos and cop cars now. If you cant see and hear a f**kn fire engine coming even painted shiney red you should hand in youre licence now imo

What about thsoe neon green Kawas?

[Swoop]

ride around looking like Sandra Bullock and I'll see you from 200 metres, every time.

Huh?

You want us to ride around wearing makeup, high heels and a short skirt?

You don't ride a Honda, by any chance?

[Trade_nancy]

I think most - if not all of us - who are opposed to wearing hi-viz vests - are driven by the .."the bastards won't make me do something I don't wanna do" mindset; or the "I'm a demon biker who looks cool(er) in black, leather, buckles and tassles". I remember all too well when helmets were made mandatory - the rolling eyeballs and hissing and spitting from bikers....now, how many of us would argue that m/cycle helmets are not beneficial to safety?
Or seatbelts in cars - same shit - was made compulsory back in the '70's and I guess it was spilt 50/50..people for it and people agin it. Now,..we just strap up and can't believe some of us argued against them.
I have a fluro vest. Bought it in Taupo 2 years ago for $6 - sometimes wear it - and believe it helps - but is not a cure for inattentive motorists. I will wear it when I go on a longer ride...in particular winter - it keeps me a bit warmer....and maybe safer. I don't believe for a minute it is LESS safe,.....and suspect it is likely to be slightly MORE safe. So,...why all the angst?

[MSTRS:Me]

I think most - if not all of us - who are opposed to wearing hi-viz vests - are driven by the .."the bastards won't make me do something I don't wanna do" mindset; or the "I'm a demon biker who looks cool(er) in black, leather, buckles and tassles". I remember all too well when helmets were made mandatory - the rolling eyeballs and hissing and spitting from bikers....now, how many of us would argue that m/cycle helmets are not beneficial to safety?
Or seatbelts in cars - same shit - was made compulsory back in the '70's and I guess it was spilt 50/50..people for it and people agin it. Now,..we just strap up and can't believe some of us argued against them.
I have a fluro vest. Bought it in Taupo 2 years ago for $6 - sometimes wear it - and believe it helps - but is not a cure for inattentive motorists. I will wear it when I go on a longer ride...in particular winter - it keeps me a bit warmer....and maybe safer. I don't believe for a minute it is LESS safe,.....and suspect it is likely to be slightly MORE safe. So,...why all the angst?

Helmets and seatbelts are a strawman argument. They have everything to do with personal injury mitigation and NOTHING to do with whether someone else sees you.
Hi-vis is all about being an un-natural spot of colour amongst a sea of colours, which *should*mean it stands out. It may or may not. The jury will always be out on that. For those that wish to wear it, all power to you - I choose not to - but be aware that fluro colours are very susceptible to UV fade, so if you do a lot of riding, better to use a cheap throw away vest rather than sewn-in panels on your expensive jacket.