Hmm. I've had a change of attitude on this hi-viz thing

**MSTRS:Me** · 1st February 2012, 07:22

Originally Posted by Coolz

You miss the point. Many argue that there is so much fluro around it doesn't stand out. A colour just for bikes could be more effective...and we all know cagers just don't see bikes.

For the purposes of a thoughtful reply, I'm assuming you meant 'bikers'. We have such a colour now....it's called BLACK.

**Swoop** · 1st February 2012, 08:12

Originally Posted by Conquiztador

A high-viz flag and vest for the man!!! I sooo deserve a medal for this!

You might remember the raleigh chopper pushbike? There were "chopper guard" flags in bright orange that could be attached to the bike, obviously to make them more visible.

We see so many of these safety devices nowadays. How did we ever survive with out them?

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* Presumably the owner of this pushbike grew up to ride harleys. Tassels.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 1st February 2012, 09:41

Hi Visibility = Invisibility.

http://camoupedia.blogspot.co.nz/201...amouflage.html

**HenryDorsetCase** · 1st February 2012, 09:42

Originally Posted by Swoop

You might remember the raleigh chopper pushbike? There were "chopper guard" flags in bright orange that could be attached to the bike, obviously to make them more visible.

We see so many of these safety devices nowadays. How did we ever survive with out them?

* Presumably the owner of this pushbike grew up to ride harleys. Tassels.

I was going to buy one of those because basically I am still 11 years old. Fuck, they go for huuuuuuge money. even a basket case needing full resto is huge money!

**Scuba_Steve** · 1st February 2012, 09:52

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Hi Visibility = Invisibility.

http://camoupedia.blogspot.co.nz/201...amouflage.html

**FJRider** · 1st February 2012, 10:20

Originally Posted by Berries

Look at it this way then. More cars pull out in front of or across the path of trucks, buses and other cars than they do motorbikes.

The issue here is ...

The dip-shits in those cars ASSUME the truck WILL brake for THEM ... They have no idea of the dynamics required to STOP a truck in time ... to avoid THEM ...

A similar theory is used by pedestrians crossing busy roads ... (they won't run into me)

In THOSE cases ... it's not about not being seen ... more the expectation that others will change their actions to suit them ...

**FJRider** · 1st February 2012, 10:24

Originally Posted by Oakie

Marketing opportunity for someone to make 'em for gangs. Hi viz on the front, patch on the back.

In the RED or BLUE of the company colours ... ???

**GrayWolf** · 1st February 2012, 11:05

Originally Posted by FJRider

The issue here is ...

The dip-shits in those cars ASSUME the truck WILL brake for THEM ... They have no idea of the dynamics required to STOP a truck in time ... to avoid THEM ...

A similar theory is used by pedestrians crossing busy roads ... (they won't run into me)

In THOSE cases ... it's not about not being seen ... more the expectation that others will change their actions to suit them ...

Totally agree with that,
where I work people run across crossings in front of trains doing 70-90kph, cars play Russian roulette. Often when 'challenged' people are late for a train and run across to the platform.. In some instances there can be an express service coming the opposite direction that you will not see as it's obscured by the stopped train on the platform.... "the train hit my car"? Oh really, so a train has leapt of the tracks, smashed your vehicle, then magically returned to the tracks? Damn, all that without a steering wheel. People do not realise how much distance it takes trains to stop, even on dry tracks... when wet?????

**Oakie** · 13th March 2012, 18:50

Been and gone and dunnit! Got a Rev'it Dragon from Hampton Honda here in Christchurch. Best fitting jacket I tried on and it ticked most of the boxes. (None of the several jackets I tried on ticked anywhere near all the boxes). As far as the hi-viz part was concerned I wanted a jacket with colour on the outside of the arms as I reckon that the most common SMIDSY event happens when a car is approaching from the side, not the front. It's not over the top hi-viz but it gives me what I want without looking like I'd escaped from someones LSD trip.

Laugh at me now if you want. I don't care. At least you can see me to laugh at me.

The only problem I've had with the jacket is that where the rest of the jacket is well made and good quality, the 'back protector' was just thin foam. Replaced it with the back protector from my now retired Fieldsheer jacket and it's all good. Actually I was in the market for new boots and gloves too and finished up buying all 'Rev'it' gear. Impressed with the brand so far. All very good fitting and well made.

**Monsterbishi** · 13th March 2012, 18:58

I work in traffic management, wearing bright, reflective gear on a daily basis.

One day, packing up a site, had my attenuator(crash pad truck) behind me, was carrying a stack of bright orange cones on my reflective vest clad shoulder and I still ended up with a lady in a car hitting me!

I'm sticking to my black jacket...

**Oakie** · 13th March 2012, 19:04

Originally Posted by Monsterbishi

I work in traffic management, wearing bright, reflective gear on a daily basis.

One day, packing up a site, had my attenuator(crash pad truck) behind me, was carrying a stack of bright orange cones on my reflective vest clad shoulder and I still ended up with a lady in a car hitting me!

I'm sticking to my black jacket...

What was her excuse though?