Is it too much to move from a 250 to 1000 right after getting fulls?

[WillskE]

just wondering about that for a while would it be a good idea to stop on a 600 before moving to 1000?

[p.dath]

just wondering about that for a while would it be a good idea to stop on a 600 before moving to 1000?

You;re asking a question with no right or wrong, black or white answer - so expect a lot of different responses.

You have a Hyosung GT250R. So I assume you are looking at more sportier road bikes and that you don't intend on taking a lot of pillions or luggage around (aka, excess weight).

So the main difference within one brand between a 600 and a 1000 is power. They both have similar weights, sizes, etc. A lot of people will simply suggest you take each for a test ride - seems reasonable.

Some of the answer may be to do with your own confidence level. Definitely take a bike you feel confident and happy about riding over one that you don't.

Some of the answer may be to do with your own skill level. A 600 may be more forgiving of throttle errors (especially grabbing a handful) than a 1000.


Personally I ride a 600. I am a bit risk adverse, and I like the idea of knowing I can grab a handful of throttle and don't have to worry about spinning up the rear. I feel confident on a 600, and I don't feel that way towards a 1000. But that's me, and my personal level of development. Yours may be different.

[WillskE]

You;re asking a question with no right or wrong, black or white answer - so expect a lot of different responses.

You have a Hyosung GT250R. So I assume you are looking at more sportier road bikes and that you don't intend on taking a lot of pillions or luggage around (aka, excess weight).

So the main difference within one brand between a 600 and a 1000 is power. They both have similar weights, sizes, etc. A lot of people will simply suggest you take each for a test ride - seems reasonable.

Some of the answer may be to do with your own confidence level. Definitely take a bike you feel confident and happy about riding over one that you don't.

Some of the answer may be to do with your own skill level. A 600 may be more forgiving of throttle errors (especially grabbing a handful) than a 1000.


Personally I ride a 600. I am a bit risk adverse, and I like the idea of knowing I can grab a handful of throttle and don't have to worry about spinning up the rear. I feel confident on a 600, and I don't feel that way towards a 1000. But that's me, and my personal level of development. Yours may be different.

havent really thought about it like this at all.. derp --" thanks

[Gremlin]

Urgh... plenty of threads on this already.

Simply put, yes, the bike only goes as fast as your right hand tells it to (heard that plenty enough). However, the bike (600 or 1000) is quite capable of accelerating faster than you can initially comprehend. Your skills won't match it's ability, and I have seen plenty not succeed in stepping from 250 to 1000.

However, I have also seen the odd ones step up fine, but it also depends what you step to. A Hornet 900 for example is very different to a sports 1000.

Best bet... no. Don't make such a big jump, it's easier to learn the skills without the huge chunk of horsepower complicating things. A well ridden 600 can be faster than a 1000 in some situations anyway.

[TrentNz]

as gremlin said. the throttle only twists so far. you'd be surprised how much acceleration you'd get out of the tiniest amount of a twist of the throttle.
i have a 250, dirt bike.. bit different then a road bike, but theirs no way in hell id go straight to a 1000.
that's just my 2 cents worth.

[axdout]

A 600 will excite you for about 2 weeks, If I could do it over I would have gone straight to the 1000. You pay big money for a nice 600, you pay more big money to extract minimal amounts of extra power out of it, then you have a ride on a 1000 that just smokes the shit out of your pride and joy, that is now worth half of what you originally paid for it, minus the mods. The bike only goes as fast as you tell it to. Just nut up and get a 1000.

[dangerous]

Urgh... plenty of threads on this already.

aint there just, and every time I get in the shit for saying my piece, FUCK ME kids whats the rush to clime onto a 1000 after a grotty we hyosung or similer? you wana end life that fast?
Shit WillskE, IMO move to a 250 sports or if that style aint you a 400 cruser, you have a life time ahead of you so 250, 400, 650 then maybe a 1000 if ya have to.
Its about learning and enjoying shit after 30yrs of non stop riding and I still only have 82Hp under my arse and loving it, HP is over rated and often owned cos the rider cant ride because they didnt take the time to learn on easier bikes.

[nadroj]

, HP is over rated and often owned cos the rider cant ride because they didnt take the time to learn on easier bikes.

Agreed!

I have a Hayabusa for sale......

[scracha]

Its about learning and enjoying shit after 30yrs of non stop riding and I still only have 82Hp under my arse and loving it, HP is over rated and often owned cos the rider cant ride because they didnt take the time to learn on easier bikes.

Yep, anyone who jumps from a 250 to a 600 and gets bored of it after 2 weeks should perhaps consider taking their obviously considerable skills to a place where they can legally hit the rev limiter in 1st gear.

[roadkillnz]

I asked the same question to myself, and went ahead with it anyway. Jumping from 250 2-stroke to a torquey v-twin 1200. The 1200 has tons of power compared to what I'm used to, but in some ways seems so calm and civilised compared to a 250 2-stroke. As for jumping to a higher strung 1000, I'm sure it's doable, just take it easy to start with,and keep an eye on the speedo, you might get a shock how quick those things get going!

[Oakie]

Nah. If you've only just got your full you've still got a chunk of learning to do. Do that learning on a more forgiving bike so you can survive long enough to enjoy the bigger bike next time around.

[PrincessBandit]

I was advised by lots of people that the 650 was too large a jump after spending a year on a ginny. However I was also advised that as long as I treated the bike (and my skill level as it was at that time) with respect much of what happened would be in my own hands.
I couldn't afford to "graduate" up through the cc levels and felt that the 650 would be the best choice for me, particularly the bandit for ergonomic reasons and my short stature. The 1250 was out of the question though!

Unless you are planning to do some serious caning of the bike 600cc should be plenty. Open road speed limit is only 100kph anyway (blah blah blah) and given the speed, acceleration and torque you can get out of some medium size bikes my personal opinion is think carefully about your own ability before spending the dosh.

You might be one of those sensible riders who have great road awareness and be a natural in the saddle, but if you aren't you might be looking at a harder-to-handle mistress than you are expecting.

[davereid]

It entirely depends on you, and the bike you choose.

LAMs is being introduced. It follows best practice advice from overseas.

The A.C.T. LAMS list allows to you ride most Harley Davidsons, right up tp 1690cc, various BMWs including the R100, the VTX1300 Honda etc etc.

In New Zealand, the NZTA decided that they wanted to restrict the maximum engine size of motorcycles to 660cc, but when challenged as to why, they had no answer, eventually saying that they didnt want learners on motorcycles that were too big or heavy.

Of course, height and weight are the measurement of big and heavy, c.c's weigh nothing. Its just another example of the NZTA being unable to shake off old poorly formed ideas.

Chhose a motorcycle that you will enjoy riding. Don't focus on performance, it rapidly looses its appeal.

Ride with care, practise basic skills until they are second nature, and you will be as safe on your 1200cc cruiser as anyone scraping a knee on a 250.

[trustme]

It entirely depends on you, and the bike you choose.

+1000
The wife went from a 250 to an 865 Bonnie, loves it, feels safer, rides like a nanna.
If you want to hop onto a 1000 sport bike & go flat out , you will very quickly be in way over your head.

[TIBLE_90]

A 600 will excite you for about 2 weeks, If I could do it over I would have gone straight to the 1000. You pay big money for a nice 600, you pay more big money to extract minimal amounts of extra power out of it, then you have a ride on a 1000 that just smokes the shit out of your pride and joy, that is now worth half of what you originally paid for it, minus the mods. The bike only goes as fast as you tell it to. Just nut up and get a 1000.

I fully agree with this haha. This exact thing happened to me . However, if money isn't a factor I would still say go for the 600 first. It allows you to become a better and more confident rider before progressing to a 1000cc bike.