4kmh tolerance for Waitangi Weekend until 29 February?

**Zamiam** · 2nd February 2012, 05:55

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Yeah, bastards.

Each ticket for less than 10km/h over costs $30.

The cost to issue and process that ticket is $26.

Yeah, they'll solve the national debt with the extra $4.

Yeah right. If it was about revenue, they'd all be out checking on diesel mileages.

Assuming your numbers are right Mr Plod then what is it about? Don't say safety because if it was we'd be more interested in making sure drivers were looking at the road instead of their speedos. And yes I know this probably equates to an indicated speed of 109-110 on most speedos because of their in accuracy.

**Maha** · 2nd February 2012, 05:55

Originally Posted by Marmoot

So why bother?

Because its not about the money (that just fabel)
Its about enforcing the set speed limit on our roads.
Why is it difficult for some to get that?

**Zamiam** · 2nd February 2012, 06:00

Originally Posted by Maha

Because its not about the money (that just fabel)
Its about enforcing the set speed limit on our roads.
Why is it difficult for some to get that?

And why is it so difficult for some to understand that the more time spent checking your speedo the less time you are paying attention to your driving environment.

**Drew** · 2nd February 2012, 06:11

Originally Posted by bsasuper

Mmmm, reliable source,... yeah right.

Originally Posted by James Deuce

It's Deano. His reliable source is your alien spacecraft witnessed by 2.5 billion human beings not on LSD and able to communicate effectively in half a dozen languages. He's one of maybe five people on KB you could trust to pick up your Lotto winnings up in Wellington and deliver to your address of choice in Invercargill without spending a cent of it.

If you're going to pull that Tui shit, or express disbelief that there are actually human beings incapable of a completely honourable composure 100% of the time, pick a better target.

I wasn't gonna put it quite so well. So what he said.

Originally Posted by scumdog

How can that be, how dare they????

Does Victoria not realise NZ is meant to be THE worst place in the world for stringently punishing those that exceed the speed-limit be even a poofteenth of a Km!!

Originally Posted by scumdog

Is said 'quite experienced' rider supposed to have a weally, weallly big banner on the back of the bike that proclaims 'Quite Experienced Rider' so the cop will know "Ah, no need to stop THAT guy"??

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Yeah, bastards.

Each ticket for less than 10km/h over costs $30.

The cost to issue and process that ticket is $26.

Yeah, they'll solve the national debt with the extra $4.

Yeah right. If it was about revenue, they'd all be out checking on diesel mileages.

Ok officers, tell me truthfully. Do you think the powers that be, are onto a winner in making our roads safer, by lowering the tollerences?

That being said, the tollerence is still the officer who does the stoppings, and his alone.

**Drew** · 2nd February 2012, 06:13

Originally Posted by Zamiam

And why is it so difficult for some to understand that the more time spent checking your speedo the less time you are paying attention to your driving environment.

What a fuckin crock!

If you can't check your speed every ten seconds safely, you shouldn't ride or drive.

If you get pulled over and say you weren't looking at your speedo, I reckon a careless use ticket should be given.

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 06:19

Originally Posted by Drew

What a fuckin crock!

If you can't check your speed every ten seconds safely, you shouldn't ride or drive.

If you get pulled over and say you weren't looking at your speedo, I reckon a careless use ticket should be given.

My speed can vary a lot in ten seconds, especially when affected by the Welly wind.
Got ta lay off doze beans boy.

**Maha** · 2nd February 2012, 06:30

Originally Posted by Drew

What a fuckin crock!

If you can't check your speed every ten seconds safely, you shouldn't ride or drive.

If you get pulled over and say you weren't looking at your speedo, I reckon a careless use ticket should be given.

I feel the sarcasm....
If you choose to ride/drive over the posted speed limit and get caught...you have two options (I am sure you'll think of more) and they are...accept it and pay or shut the fuck up because..moaning/bitching and stamping ones feet wont make it go away.
The receiving of a speeding ticket was made by the driver/rider long before actually getting it.

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 06:51

Originally Posted by Maha

I feel the sarcasm....
If you choose to ride/drive over the posted speed limit and get caught...you have two options (I am sure you'll think of more) and they are...accept it and pay or shut the fuck up because..moaning/bitching and stamping ones feet wont make it go away.
The receiving of a speeding ticket was made by the driver/rider long before actually getting it.

With only a 4k tolerance it is the choosing that is the issue. Easy to break that tolerance without even knowing. And other times the choice is between safety and breaking the tolerance, despite what Rustuscat and co would have us believe obeying the limit ain't a good choice to reflect upon from hospital.

**Maha** · 2nd February 2012, 07:07

Originally Posted by oneofsix

With only a 4k tolerance it is the choosing that is the issue. Easy to break that tolerance without even knowing. And other times the choice is between safety and breaking the tolerance, despite what Rustuscat and co would have us believe obeying the limit ain't a good choice to reflect upon from hospital.

I travel over the speed limit all the time (where I can)...I am guessing I am not alone there?
Last time I got caught, I said to the cop '' no worries mate, I know the rules''.
I ended up getting off that ticket but thats beside the point...
Point is...the choice is there for all road users.
So is the open road road speed limit.

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 07:25

Originally Posted by Maha

I travel over the speed limit all the time (where I can)...I am guessing I am not alone there?
Last time I got caught, I said to the cop '' no worries mate, I know the rules''.
I ended up getting off that ticket but thats beside the point...
Point is...the choice is there for all road users.
So is the open road road speed limit.

sorry didn't realise this thread was all about you. I thought it was all about rustuscat trying to rationalise what he will be doing over the next few days so he can live with himself.

**Maha** · 2nd February 2012, 07:30

Originally Posted by oneofsix

sorry didn't realise this thread was all about you. I thought it was all about rustuscat trying to rationalise what he will be doing over the next few days so he can live with himself.

The thread is about the the open road speed limit being nothing but mythical. (to some)

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 07:40

Originally Posted by Maha

The thread is about the the open road speed limit being nothing but mythical. (to some)

If you must ...
Mythical - no
Arbitrary - yes
Relevant - now there is a debate as to how and why
But the 4k tolerance doesn't just apply to the open road or the

that will be at the Paramata bridge this weekend has it wrong.
After being held up by the cage that doggidly stuck to what they thought was the limit in the higher speed areas then left us 100s of metres behind in the 50 k area only to be overtaken by a B-train in the 100k area following (after the B-train caught up again) makes, you think the target is a bit off. Too be fair to

they do target the 50k area in question quite heavily, it has nice steep down hills that catch people out when they are too busy looking for pedestrians instead of checking their speedos, once every 10 second checks aren't enough.

**5150** · 2nd February 2012, 07:43

You guys have all forgotten that no KB member ever broke speed limit. We are all law obiding citizens here. NOT....

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 07:50

Originally Posted by 5150

You guys have all forgotten that no KB member ever broke speed limit. We are all law obiding citizens here. NOT....

Yeah good point. What's the point of arguing over the limits and the tolerance applied to them when we never exceed them? It's a bit like trying to make the world a better place when it is already perfect.

**Scuba_Steve** · 2nd February 2012, 08:38

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Good question, well asked.

It's to create the perception, however subconscious, that if you speed you'll be fined. That slows most people down. It's a deterrent.

Funny old thing, maybe it's about road safety.

you crack me up sometimes RC
I would like to know tho this $26 you made up, is that one of these "costs" like "it 'costs' 20,000 for an ambulance" ignoring the fact we're already paying the staff despite them doing anything or not, so the real cost is more like 100$ for fuel???

Originally Posted by Drew

What a fuckin crock!

If you can't check your speed every ten seconds safely, you shouldn't ride or drive.

If you get pulled over and say you weren't looking at your speedo, I reckon a careless use ticket should be given.

so your attention is off the road at-least 12secs every minute... nice one, dangerous driving I think. And you still have to check you mirrors.
There is NOTHING safe about taking your eyes off the road Nothing!.

Originally Posted by Maha

The thread is about the the open road speed limit being nothing but mythical. (to some)

No it's about the current limits & the way they're inforced being bullshit.