Dealer/distributor price gouging continues unabated

[flyingcrocodile46]

Not disputing the logic, but things have already changed a lot in the market here.

I bought this (now) $1300 watch (was about $1400) for $420 (approx 30% of retail) delivered about 6 years ago.
http://www.citizenwatches.co.nz/prod...del/JR3090-58M

No doubt I could buy it cheaper now (if it was still available anywhere except NZ) but overseas stockists ran out of the old stock years ago and have a much flasher new model for about the same cost ($420 NZ upwards)

I'm all for Kiwi jobs and local businesses but not when I have to subsidise them by paying 250% more than the value of the goods that they want to sell to me.

How am I looking after my own (and my families) best interests when all these fine businesses and their fine employees must be propped up with 70% of the 60% of my income which the govt leaves me.

The answer is that I can't. I have to be selective about what I spend money on and how much I can get for my dollar. We all do.

[Robert Taylor]

Not disputing the logic, but things have already changed a lot in the market here.

I bought this (now) $1300 watch (was about $1400) for $420 (approx 30% of retail) delivered about 6 years ago.
http://www.citizenwatches.co.nz/prod...del/JR3090-58M

No doubt I could buy it cheaper now (if it was still available anywhere except NZ) but overseas stockists ran out of the old stock years ago and have a much flasher new model for about the same cost ($420 NZ upwards)

I'm all for Kiwi jobs and local businesses but not when I have to subsidise them by paying 250% more than the value of the goods that they want to sell to me.

How am I looking after my own (and my families) best interests when all these fine businesses and their fine employees must be propped up with 70% of the 60% of my income which the govt leaves me.

The answer is that I can't. I have to be selective about what I spend money on and how much I can get for my dollar. We all do.

Suffice to say that I was offering a perspective of the issues in my chosen field and I am well aware of huge price disparities that occur with many products.

I think there is a general attitude though with many consumers that there is a huge price discrepancy with ALL products, which of course there is not.

[BoristheBiter]

Not disputing the logic, but things have already changed a lot in the market here.

I bought this (now) $1300 watch (was about $1400) for $420 (approx 30% of retail) delivered about 6 years ago.
http://www.citizenwatches.co.nz/prod...del/JR3090-58M

No doubt I could buy it cheaper now (if it was still available anywhere except NZ) but overseas stockists ran out of the old stock years ago and have a much flasher new model for about the same cost ($420 NZ upwards)

I'm all for Kiwi jobs and local businesses but not when I have to subsidise them by paying 250% more than the value of the goods that they want to sell to me.

How am I looking after my own (and my families) best interests when all these fine businesses and their fine employees must be propped up with 70% of the 60% of my income which the govt leaves me.

The answer is that I can't. I have to be selective about what I spend money on and how much I can get for my dollar. We all do.

I just did a quick search on that watch and even though it is cheaper in places, ebay and the like $AUS499-$USD215, it still says that the RRP is $1300.
If you go to the south African web site it is over $1400 so they would say it's cheaper here.

I don't think you can compare a watch to vehicle parts and services other than a certain part is a certain part.
As stated, overseas markets are much bigger than ours and because of that we will pay a higher price on most things.

[Bassmatt]

Cynically, I look back at the 70s and in those days there were many small businesses and their owners were able to make a comfortable living ( not so much to make them wealthy ) and employ a few of our own along the way. Now because of the total de-regulation of world markets ( and this is not a green light for a copy of ''War and Peace'' ) the dynamic has changed so much that many of these people can now only eke out a meager living working as ''serfs'' for big box retailers.

Thought you were a "self confessed 'tory " Robert? Didnt think that one through eh?

[Robert Taylor]

Thought you were a "self confessed 'tory " Robert? Didnt think that one through eh?

Yes that issue is a conundrum. Proudly I am a lifelong tory but also a compassionate one

[paturoa]

I'm looking at the options for an american trip including buying over there and shipping home. Bidrider advertise a $1500 nz (no hidden costs - tui ad) shipping from USA to NZ.

So I was looking for a tiger 800xc, and there are bugger all on ebay or craigslist, so I went to the USA triumph site bike builder configurator thingie which calculates the recommended retail prices.

In $US a 800xc with panniers, heated grips, sump guard etc is $14,848 ride away, or $18,000 nz at current exchange rates. So for interests sake I checked the nz site and the same spec bike calculates at $27,000.

Add the $1500 to the $18,000 and that is still $500 cheaper than a bare bones XC with no farkles.

Seems to big a gap. You've got to wonder how the american dealers survive.

Still - did anyone see the price of steiny pures in califormia recently

A six-pack of Steinlager Pure typically sells for about $16 in New Zealand. But travel 10,000km from where it is brewed, to America, and it can be bought for about $6.

here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10783093

EDIT: aparently the us cost don't include taxes - will investigate
EDIT #2: found a DMV site that said $1480 us dollars sales tax registration - so that would make it $16328 us or $19755 nz. So that is still $7000 nz cheaper over there.