Dealer/distributor price gouging continues unabated

[Woodman]

They are fixed costs (except freight) which they are paying regardless of my purchase or not. If the margin was more reasonable then they may have had some profit with which to offset these costs, now they have none.

Fair call but not sustainable in the long term unless there are huge volume sales. Not in NZ. Not in this niche.

[Bassmatt]

Why didnt you just fix the motor?

Im not an electrician or mecahnic and nobody suggested that as an option so didnt really think of that. When I told the guy at the dealership I wasnt paying $600 the only help he offered was for me to look on trademe.

[Bassmatt]

Fair call but not sustainable in the long term unless there are huge volume sales. Not in NZ. Not in this niche.

Yep you're right and I hope that there is some solution because I cant see them surviving under the current conditions (low turnover+ridiculous pricing) and in the long run thats bad news for all of us.

[nzspokes]

Im not an electrician or mecahnic and nobody suggested that as an option so didnt really think of that. When I told the guy at the dealership I wasnt paying $600 the only help he offered was for me to look on trademe.

I would doubt it would be a major fix.

[Bassmatt]

I would doubt it would be a major fix.

Ok Thanks for that i'll look into it.

[bikaholic]

I would doubt it would be a major fix.

if the motor was stalled by a stone it would have overheated and the winding insulation would have melted shorting the motor winding out, else the heat would have open circuited it somewhere, most likely not at the connections.

[Woodman]

Surprised the gummint haven't got onto this.

Huge tarriffs on privately imported motorcycle parts forcing us to purchase from the local dealers therefore putting the cost of motorcycling in NZ further from our reach.

[BMWST?]

They are fixed costs (except freight) which they are paying regardless of my purchase or not. If the margin was more reasonable then they may have had some profit with which to offset these costs, now they have none.

fixed costs or not they have to be paid for....and the share that you pay on the so called profit margin covers a small percentage of the total costs of the whole shop....not just the 30 seconds someone served you for...The sales budget was set previuosly and figures juggled accordingly

[bikaholic]

Surprised the gummint haven't got onto this.

Huge tarriffs on privately imported motorcycle parts forcing us to purchase from the local dealers therefore putting the cost of motorcycling in NZ further from our reach.

tarriffs were removed years ago from imported goods, that's why we have free trade agreements. it stimulates the economy, creates competition, drives prices down, allows for new entrants, and closes down inefficient markets.

[onearmedbandit]

fixed costs or not they have to be paid for....and the share that you pay on the so called profit margin covers a small percentage of the total costs of the whole shop....not just the 30 seconds someone served you for...The sales budget was set previuosly and figures juggled accordingly

It's not the retailers I'm complaining about, it's the business model the distributors/manufacturers are using.

[jasonu]

That's cool, I'd expect USPS to have standardised rates. The point was, and still is, that shipping costs do vary, whether because of extra handling costs, or even extra handeling costs.

Agreed.

The problem being is that if you order via the internet it is the vendor's choice of who they choose to deal with....and for the most part the shipping prices are obscene

That has not been the case in my experience. I have shipped a lot of stuff from the states to NZ using both USPS and vendors shipping and have yet to be baddly robbed.

Im paying US$22 for freight

UPS is also a rip imho

Never, never, NEVER use UPS for anything. Slow and expensive.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Agreed.



That has not been the case in my experience. I have shipped a lot of stuff from the states to NZ using both USPS and vendors shipping and have yet to be baddly robbed.



Never, never, NEVER use UPS for anything. Slow and expensive.

I ordered a 100w Stator from Trail Tech got stung 99$ US for shipping alone & it took over 10days to get here WTF I was expecting it to be Teleport'ed here for that price

[Woodman]

I ordered a 100w Stator from Trail Tech got stung 99$ US for shipping alone & it took over 10days to get here WTF I was expecting it to be Teleport'ed here for that price

Trailtech charge crazy freight, and my conspiracy theory is so you then purchase it from a local distributor. Sort of a backdoor way of respecting territories.


I got quoted $110 freight for a vapor, making it cheaper to buy locally.

[spanner spinner]

Blue wing Honda are a private NZ company so don't get the same deal as the rest of the world. Nearly all other importers are owned by Honda Japan so they can subsidise the cost of bikes and spares from there manufacturer margin. This is because our market is to small for Japan to be interested in. Most of the other distributors in NZ are in the same boat. Only Suzuki is owned by the parent company, Yamaha is run out of Australia so Yamaha owners get the benefit of being part of a larger market. If we want better prices maybe we should become the new eastern state of Australia. As I said earier more people riding bikes more parts and accesories bought better prices, thats how all the multinational companies work.

[spanner spinner]

Now what I'd like someone to tell me is.............Bluewing buy direct from Honda, US retailer prob buys from US wholesaler, does that mean either Bluewing either have a really bad deal with Japan or are they unrealistic in thinking NZer's will pay because they believe no one knows how to use the internet these days?

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Yep Blue Wing get a bum deal see my earier post to why.