It's started already

[Berries]

I'm not sure, but hasn't this been discussed in like 500,000 other threads?

[swbarnett]

The old law made sense to me, as the right turning vehicle is in the MIDDLE of the road, and the left turning vehicle is on the left of the road. Unless the lazy bastard/bitch didn't leave room for traffic to pass. And if you are left turning, and traffic is passing from behind you, you can sneak left ... as the right turning traffic has to give way to them.

Works well untill there's room to the right of the left turner for a bike but not a car. The right turning driver in this situation is quite likely to not even know you're there. At least if the left turner has the right of way you know the path will be clear to ride past them (at least legally).

Six of one, half a dozen of the other ... is what it boils down to ...

Quite agree. I had no real problem with the old law (apart from the special circumstance described above) until I drove in Europe. Everything was just simpler beacuse you give way to the same side you drive on i.e. drive on the right, give way to the right. The law as it stands at the moment in NZ is give way to the right but we drive on the left.

[FJRider]

The right turning driver in this situation is quite likely to not even know you're there. At least if the left turner has the right of way you know the path will be clear to ride past them (at least legally).

The knowledge of ... both rules (as in this case) of who has right of way, stretches the thinking capacity of some road users ... so will go, with the knowledge they have right of way, to one vehicle at least.

I have seen and heard this explanation (roadside)to a cop .... after an "incident" ... unsucessfully I might add ...

[swbarnett]

The knowledge of ... both rules (as in this case) of who has right of way, stretches the thinking capacity of some road users ... so will go, with the knowledge they have right of way, to one vehicle at least.

I have seen and heard this explanation (roadside)to a cop .... after an "incident" ... unsucessfully I might add ...

What I find so simple about the laws in Switzerland is that fact that it matters not what type of intersection you are on or who's trying to do what. You just give way to traffic approaching from your right (that would be left if we adopted this here) - no exceptions unless signposted.

The only place you found anything like a give way was at treaffic lights and where a minor road interescted with a major one. Most suburban intersections were unmarked.