London Bomb suspect shot

**curious george** · 24th July 2005, 10:14

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?...ectID=10337323

Two points here I think:
1: If he had just stopped, done what the police said, he would probably be alive
2: By shooting him, (rightly or wrongly) have they added another reason for another bomber?

Obviously Muslum groups are pissed and see it as Muslim hating, but do you think somebody will justify another attack in the name of this new death?

**Lou Girardin** · 24th July 2005, 13:14

It turns out that he was Brazillian with no known links to the bombings. Oops!
Strange that he ran and wouldn't stop when told though, and he came out of a suspect house under surveillance.

**Pathos** · 24th July 2005, 13:26

Why the F*** did that idiot shoot him??? If he was an actual bomber he would have information that could have stop future bombings and close down some of the terrorist cell.

F***en gun ho police men, glad they don't carry firearms here because its just asking for them to be used they start reaching for them if you even think about resisting. I hope that retard gets locked up like the murderer he is.

**Ixion** · 24th July 2005, 13:32

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

It turns out that he was Brazillian with no known links to the bombings. Oops!
Strange that he ran and wouldn't stop when told though, and he came out of a suspect house under surveillance.

Perhaps not so strange. Those stopped by Brazilian police in the past have been known to "disappear". They regard the police differently to us , who have never suffered under tyranny.

And even if he had no links to the bombers, he may well have been a "fringe hanger on", and/or a criminal for some more conventional nature.

Reasons enough, to him, to do a runner (assuming he had no idea that he might be shot).

There are those on KB who have "done a runner" with less reason.

Not the wisest decision in such a fraught atmosphere, but I dont suppose he thought that through.

**Sutage** · 24th July 2005, 13:36

Jesus 5 shots at point blank range.
Someones in trouble

**El Dopa** · 24th July 2005, 13:43

Originally Posted by Pathos

Why the F*** did that idiot shoot him??? If he was an actual bomber he would have information that could have stop future bombings and close down some of the terrorist cell.

F***en gun ho police men, glad they don't carry firearms here because its just asking for them to be used they start reaching for them if you even think about resisting. I hope that retard gets locked up like the murderer he is.

Complete Bollocks.

If he was an actual bomber, as he was suspected to be, AND CARRYING at the time he was shot, what exactly do you want the police to do in a public crowded place? "Excuse mr bomber, don't set off that bomb you're carrying, we'd like to ask you a few questions about you and your mates."

Or perhaps they should have shot to disable, which contary to what is shown in the movies, is practically impossible. The only way they could have been sure he was unable to detonate a device is to put him down, permanently.

If he was an bomber/extremist, well, good fucking job by the police.

If he wasn't, then running from an armed police unit when told to stop is not exactly a brilliant idea in the current atmosphere in London.

**Sutage** · 24th July 2005, 13:50

Originally Posted by El Dopa

Complete Bollocks.

If he was an actual bomber, as he was suspected to be, AND CARRYING at the time he was shot, what exactly do you want the police to do in a public crowded place? "Excuse mr bomber, don't set off that bomb you're carrying, we'd like to ask you a few questions about you and your mates."

Or perhaps they should have shot to disable, which contary to what is shown in the movies, is practically impossible. The only way they could have been sure he was unable to detonate a device is to put him down, permanently.

If he was an bomber/extremist, well, good fucking job by the police.

If he wasn't, then running from an armed police unit when told to stop is not exactly a brilliant idea in the current atmosphere in London.

Agree 100%, but 5 shots to the head point blank? I dunno thats kinda unneccessary man, but under the stress and fear the cop was in? cant really judge his actions, unless you know you wouldnt of, cant say i do

**myvice** · 24th July 2005, 13:57

There are many countries in the world that haven’t been attacked where if you ran you would be shot.
And after two separate attempts to kill people just trying to get to work I can’t blame them for being a little highly strung.
Any innocent person wouldn’t have run, simple as that.

**erik** · 24th July 2005, 15:40

Originally Posted by Sutage

Agree 100%, but 5 shots to the head point blank? I dunno thats kinda unneccessary man, but under the stress and fear the cop was in? cant really judge his actions, unless you know you wouldnt of, cant say i do

Would 1 shot to the head be any better? Seems like he was just being thorough...
If they suspected the guy had explosives on him and was perhaps about to trigger them, shooting him in the head would be the safest way to stop him.
Shoot him anywhere else and they might've hit the explosives.
I don't think the police were at fault, the guy ran from them and headed for a busy underground train.
I think it can just be put down to a tragic accident.

**scumdog** · 24th July 2005, 15:41

Originally Posted by Pathos

Why the F*** did that idiot shoot him??? If he was an actual bomber he would have information that could have stop future bombings and close down some of the terrorist cell.

F***en gun ho police men, glad they don't carry firearms here because its just asking for them to be used they start reaching for them if you even think about resisting. I hope that retard gets locked up like the murderer he is.

No neg point 'cos I think you've a lot of growing up to do.

Save your comments for ten years and then have a look at them again - and then see if you still think the same.

Given the nervous climate over there and the dead dudes behaviour the outcome was pretty predictable.

BTW Police do carry firearms here more than you know.

**onearmedbandit** · 24th July 2005, 17:04

People (police) in plain clothes chasing you, maybe your english is limited or non-existent, what would you do?

**Clockwork** · 24th July 2005, 17:42

When I first heard of the shooting..... for the first time in my life I actually applauded such actions from a Police Officer.

Now it turns out they shot the wrong man. (I know he was an idiot.... and could have avoided this but.....)

...... now I'm confused :unsure:

**MikeL** · 24th July 2005, 18:17

Originally Posted by Clockwork

I know he was an idiot.... and could have avoided this but.....)

How?

How do you know he was an idiot?
How do you know he could have avoided it?

He was wearing "suspicious clothing"
He was behaving "in a suspicious way", having come out of a house under surveillance.

Looks like "suspicion" is enough these days to get you 5 bullets in the head...