There used to be, what happened to them? didn't they generate enough revenue to be worthwhile?Originally Posted by rastuscat
In the riders seat
There used to be, what happened to them? didn't they generate enough revenue to be worthwhile?
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Fair weather rider
Bugger all cars but plenty of cyclists. Time for some mufti-cycle cops.
Hardsnore Biker
I don't know about chch, but I'm sure that there are a few in dorkland where you would catch a few. It seems to be worst during "rush" hour.
I'll take particular note on the red before thing.
When I ride my bike I DO NOT stop on amber lights, it is just too dangerous on the bike because of the tail gaters and red light runners. I'd just get mown down.
L-Plate Rider
Matipo St/Riccarton Rd gets pretty bad at times, as does Ferry/Aldwins (people who are coming from the West regularly turn left into Aldwins Road on a red)
Between these two intersections you'll be able to score yourself a donut oven. forget the toaster
Born to be mild
If we get to nominate our own blitz, can mine be on people who indicate right on entering a roundabout and then go straight ahead ... espeically if they are in the left lane of a dual lane and I'm in the right lane. That is a real sphincter puckerer.
Grow older but never grow up
Don't forget to bring a towel
That and the fact that many vehicles leak oil and/or diesel on the roads when stopped for a red light, so you could end up going for a slide.
I still can't understand why it's so difficult for some people to understand when and where indicators should be used.
mad thou rider
interesting to see the definition you guys have!
Forum whore
What are the consequences of a yellow light offence?
Night rider
Oh? ..........
Time to ride
Best Frenemy you could have!
Pity you ain't in Auckland. One of the bike cops up here used to sit at intersections and do a steady trade in East Auckland. Used to watch him wait for his phase, close his helmet as the lights turned orange, wait for the car to go through on red, then pursue. Easy as that. We get cars still coming through when it's turned green for us. Pity he moved to SCU, haven't seen a replacement around...
Oh, and often the cars really don't notice. One car ran a very red light, with a marked cop car sitting in the lane next to it (I was behind the cop car).
on the up
You could get hit by a car on the opposing lane jumping the green.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Forum whore
Interesting question.
In Churchur the traffic engineers are reluctant to deploy green turn arrows. This has resulted in people using the yellow light as a turn phase. Our worst intersections are the multi lane ones, big wide avenues. hen someone is turning, they have to cross several lanes of opposing direction before they exit the intersection.
At the same time as someone is using the yellow phase to turn (and not have to (gasp.....wait) there is occasionally someone coming in the other direction who is also looking at the yellow light, deciding whether to stop or nail it to beat the change to red.
Occasionally the person turning doesn't see the other car, and occasionally the person coming straight through from the other direction is nailing it. Too many times, these two crash.
The turning person may even have seen the oncoming car, and decided that the oncoming driver has plenty of time to stop, so will.
There are so many permutations for the yellow light crash, when it's very preventable.
If someone crosses the lines to enter the intersection and they just are just across the line when the light turns red, they haven't committed a red light offence. In Churchur the yellow lights are 4 seconds in duration, so if a car/bike enters as the light turned red, they ere 4 seconds back when it went yellow. At 50 km/h that's over 50 metres. Plenty of time to have stopped.
So may times we get the arguments about how the light had just gone yellow, when in fact it had turned red just as they entered. We hear all about the having to keep going because someone was so close behind, even where there is nothing behind. Basically, for every yellow light ticket there is an excuse.
The classic is a person waiting to turn right at a set of lights. They are stationary behind the limit line. They are waiting at a green light, waiting for the traffic coming the other way to clear. The light goes yellow, the traffic coming the other way (miraculously) slows because their light has gone yellow too, and the stationary vehicle sets off, using the yellow light as a turn phase. No problemo, until a driver coming the other way is nailing it to also beat the lights.
The general thought is that it's totally okay to go through a yellow light. Thing is, there is a condition on that.
(4) While a steady yellow signal in the form of a disc is displayed,—
(a) a driver facing the signal must not enter the controlled area while the signal is displayed unless the driver's vehicle is, when the signal first appears, so close to the controlled area that it cannot safely be stopped before entering the area:
The discussion normally comes down to one of whether the stop can be made safely. The driver is making a retrospective judgement, where they drive through, we confront them, then they come up with a reason why they couldn't stop, which normally bears no relevance to what actually happened.
I smile (always inside, of course) when someone in say, an R8 Commodore or a new Merc or Audi (all fitted with awesome brakes, enters an intersection a split second before the light goes red. We stop them, and they argue that they couldn't stop in time. LEARN TO DRIVE YA NUMPTY. Always only ever said quietly and to ourselves, of course.
Happy to debate traffic light things, it's like, Traffic Lights R Us. My section is called the Intersection Safety Team, I have learned a thing or two about the subject since we were set up.
Donuts
Forum whore
I was on an R80RT-P when K Rd and Queen St was in one of it's previous formats, late eighties. It was dead exciting, sitting on the South West kerb on K Rd, watching the lights for the traffic coming down Upper Q Street. When the light for traffic travelling North went yellow, the balloon went up. I would look to see if anything was going to keep going. If it was, I'd start the bike, and hover my thumbs over the bells and whistles buttons. Shazam, red light, car goes through. The trick was to get the bells and whistles going, get the bike in gear and get across the intersection before K Rd traffic stated to flow.
These days I need a cup of tea just thinking about it.
Lost In Translation
Please come back to Auckland. I'll give you a donut for every twat you ping on Halsey St & Fanshawe (if we make it 2 donuts per bus there, you'll need to borrow one from Stagecoach to take them all home in) as well as Beaumont & Fanshawe. Those are the two worst junctions I have ever seen, and that is saying something in Auckland. In morning rush hour you'd get someone at speed and fully on red at every other phase change (at least).I was on an R80RT-P when K Rd and Queen St was in one of it's previous formats, late eighties. It was dead exciting, sitting on the South West kerb on K Rd, watching the lights for the traffic coming down Upper Q Street. When the light for traffic travelling North went yellow, the balloon went up. I would look to see if anything was going to keep going. If it was, I'd start the bike, and hover my thumbs over the bells and whistles buttons. Shazam, red light, car goes through. The trick was to get the bells and whistles going, get the bike in gear and get across the intersection before K Rd traffic stated to flow.
These days I need a cup of tea just thinking about it.
I have often considered setting up a camera on the Halsey/Fanshawe intersection and sending the footage to the bus companies. They would find it revealing, I suspect.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Good on ya RC.
Red light runners are far more of a problem than most motorists' care to acknowledge.
Can you not simply stand at the intersection with a 12g (loaded with solid slugs of course) and pick the bastards off? It would stop the problem overnight.
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