Any long distance tips? Riding from Wellington to Auckland and back this week

[Madness]

If I was riding a Keeway from Welly to D'Aucks (which I wouldn't) I'd be sticking to main Highways, just in case

[gatch]

If you plan on deviating from SH1 at all, you should take a sawn off shot gun.

If you stay on SH1, take at least a large knife. Preferably with a gutting hook on the back.

You know, just in case..

[mossy1200]

If you plan on deviating from SH1 at all, you should take a sawn off shot gun.

If you stay on SH1, take at least a large knife. Preferably with a gutting hook on the back.

You know, just in case..

I guess 110-120 wont outrun bandits now that they all drive stolen wrxs

[Berries]

Any tips??? Ahhh.

If you're not confident, which I pick you aren't, I'd then leave the camera at home and concentrate on your riding.

[sinfull]

Depends on bike of course..but isn't 40Lb a lot for a front tyre?

Thank fuck someone said it and didn't just worry about his arse being Dumb ! I mean Numb

Learn about ya bloody bike before ya go off half cocked making a video to show us how good ya are at riding the highways ! What tyres do ya have on it ? What pressure do the tyres manufacturer recomend for the weight of your bike ? Are you going to carry chain lube for that chain you don't even know how to adjust ? Hows the oil doing, if you let tyre pressures get down to 10 psi ? When was an oil and filter change done before you go off and do another 2-2.500 kM

Have a look at the specs i pulled up in awww 30 seconds on google !
Tells me two or three things
Your bike only does 115 kp/h from new, don't expect it to have an aftermarket sproket that has changed the gearing !
Your fuel economy is up shit creak, the specs tell me it should do 33.3 km per lt or 3 lt per 100 km, out of a 9 ltr tank sort of hits the 300k mark, your only getting 180 ks per tank, so your either thrashing the hell out of that wee bike, or the dude ya bought it off has fucked with it and changed the pipes and or fettled with the carb ! ORRR ya aint checked the air filter

Jesus man i'd even bet you a thousand dollars you havent found the radiator cap yet !! Sheeesh !


Model: Keeway Supershadow 250
Year: 2008
Category: Sport
Rating: 72.5 out of 100.
Engine and transmission
Displacement: 248.00 ccm (15.13 cubic inches)
Engine type: Twin, four-stroke
Power: 17.70 HP (12.9 kW)) @ 7500 RPM
Top speed: 115 kp/h (71.5 mph)
Fuel system: Carburettor
Cooling system: Air
Gearbox: 5-speed
Fuel consumption: 3.00 litres/100 km (33.3 km/l or 78.41 mpg)
Greenhouse gases: 69.6 CO2 g/km. (CO2 – Carbon dioxide emission)
Exhaust system: Euro 2
Chassis, suspension, brakes and wheels
Front tyre dimensions: 110/90-18
Rear tyre dimensions: 130/90-15
Front brakes: Single disc
Rear brakes: Expanding brake (drum brake)
Physical measures and capacities
Dry weight: 140.0 kg (308.6 pounds)
Power/weight ratio: 0.1264 HP/kg
Overall height: 1,145 mm (45.1 inches)
Overall length: 2,225 mm (87.6 inches)
Overall width: 760 mm (29.9 inches)
Ground clearance: 165 mm (6.5 inches)
Fuel capacity: 9.00 litres (2.38 gallons)
Other specifications
Starter: Electric
Color options: Red, blac

[mossy1200]

Thank fuck someone said it and didn't just worry about his arse being Dumb ! I mean Numb

Learn about ya bloody bike before ya go off half cocked making a video to show us how good ya are at riding the highways ! What tyres do ya have on it ? What pressure do the tyres manufacturer recomend for the weight of your bike ? Are you going to carry chain lube for that chain you don't even know how to adjust ? Hows the oil doing, if you let tyre pressures get down to 10 psi ? When was an oil and filter change done before you go off and do another 2-2.500 kM

Have a look at the specs i pulled up in awww 30 seconds on google !
Tells me two or three things
Your bike only does 115 kp/h from new, don't expect it to have an aftermarket sproket that has changed the gearing !
Your fuel economy is up shit creak, the specs tell me it should do 33.3 km per lt or 3 lt per 100 km, out of a 9 ltr tank sort of hits the 300k mark, your only getting 180 ks per tank, so your either thrashing the hell out of that wee bike, or the dude ya bought it off has fucked with it and changed the pipes and or fettled with the carb ! ORRR ya aint checked the air filter

Jesus man i'd even bet you a thousand dollars you havent found the radiator cap yet !! Sheeesh !

dont go to hard out on him hes fishing for guidance.
Its possible the speed is limited by the low horsepower and not the sprocket ratio(same result higher revs).Or the last seller said gearing changed but wasnt(Inexperienced rider soaks info like sponge and has no reason to doubt it).
Last rider had tires at 10pounds and someone said 40 is good so in goes 40.
Idd love to have a record of my first road trip to look at.If its outa distraction sight and can run 9hrs without fiddling is it harming him.

I got 3 spare cans of chain lube and time to help him set his tires and adjust his chain if he pms me.

[sinfull]

dont go to hard out on him hes fishing for guidance.
Its possible the speed is limited by the low horsepower and not the sprocket ratio(same result higher revs).Or the last seller said gearing changed but wasnt(Inexperienced rider soaks info like sponge and has no reason to doubt it).
Last rider had tires at 10pounds and someone said 40 is good so in goes 40.
Idd love to have a record of my first road trip to look at.If its outa distraction sight and can run 9hrs without fiddling is it harming him.

I got 3 spare cans of chain lube and time to help him set his tires and adjust his chain if he pms me.

Sounds like the sort of bloke that might react well to being called stupid, worked for me with my first bike and old man, he might just get his shit together now and PM ya for that offer of help just so he can come back one day and blow my lack of knowledge to the weeds !

But I re read his post about the sprocket change and the guy who sold it to him said he changed it so now it will do 140 k instead of the 115 Yes ?
So why then is the economy so up the shit i do wonder ? Should be better with the longer legs ! I smell a back yard mechanic rat

[FJRider]

But I re read his post about the sprocket change and the guy who sold it to him said he changed it so now it will do 140 k instead of the 115 Yes ?
So why then is the economy so up the shit i do wonder ? Should be better with the longer legs ! I smell a back yard mechanic rat

To quote him ...

Apparently my bikes sprocket was changed from standard, so i get 180km per tank instead of the original 250km, but in turn I get more acceleration/speed for a 250cc bike (it goes to 140 apparently, though i've only done 110~120)

It's a long way (on a 250) from 110/120 up to 140 ... it's been geared down, not up.

[mossy1200]

To quote him ...

Apparently my bikes sprocket was changed from standard, so i get 180km per tank instead of the original 250km, but in turn I get more acceleration/speed for a 250cc bike (it goes to 140 apparently, though i've only done 110~120)

It's a long way (on a 250) from 110/120 up to 140 ... it's been geared down, not up.

So we can say the guy that sold it was fulla poo
Its possible gearing down retains same approx top speed due to low hp not being able to get the bike going any quicker but that would ruin fuel economy.Also the 180km may not include reserve which may mean only 6-7 litres fuel used so might be 250 with reserve on nasty revs causing 50km loss of economy.

Truth being it would be easier to have a look and see what evils the bike has and get him pointed in the correct direction before his adventure.

Everyone falls foul to bad information at some point.

If the bike is over reving to do 100km idd think changing ratio before said trip to stock would be vital for engine protection alone.

[sinfull]

To quote him ...

Apparently my bikes sprocket was changed from standard, so i get 180km per tank instead of the original 250km, but in turn I get more acceleration/speed for a 250cc bike (it goes to 140 apparently, though i've only done 110~120)

It's a long way (on a 250) from 110/120 up to 140 ... it's been geared down, not up.

Yup

You can see the contradiction in his quote, in one breath he's saying i get less out of my tank and more ecceleration ! Then in the next breath he's saying it has more top end !

So has it been geared up or down FJ haha

My bet it has higher gearing if he's doing 110-120 clicks with more throttle to go, seeing the stock bike only does 115 k and he just hasn't experienced the accelleration of standard gearing on it

So that leaves the question, where is the gas going ?

http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/moto...ocketmath.html

The link is for the OP to more understand gearing

[mossy1200]

i think its been geared down(4 tooth up on rear)runs same speed(new owner claims 110-120 was only old owner claiming 140)but just at higher revs as the low hp couldnt pull bike any faster in the original gearing.Explains the low economy due to higher rpm for same speed top end.

But its all just based on the info of a newer rider and the overstated, overinflated truth bender that sold it to him.

Facts

A-Power: 17.70 HP (12.9 kW)) @ 7500 RPM
B-weight 140kg claimed plus fuel and rider
C-rider 6foot3 as per his looking for gear add(not small guy)

Possibles

A-new owner was riding on 10 pound tires
B-180km may have not included reserve
C-bike may have bad tune
D-old owners claim 140 very likely crap

C-new owner claim 110-120 on clock may be max speed capable due to FACTS above.
E-new owner may twist throttle alot

Recommendations

New owner finds out more about bike before goes on road trip.Perhaps puts gearing back to stock.Rides for a hour or hour and half lets bike have a rest.Oil and filter change advised.Lube chain every 300km on trip.Mounts camera in a area that it wont distract and cant be adjusted while riding.Makes a effort to ride safe.
ENJOYS the trip.

[jaffaonajappa]

Without getting too technical....as that has already been done.

For a new newbie.

1. Check ur weather forecast and watch out for high winds.
2. Have a really good check of your drivetrain and brakes - as mentioned already, tyre pressures and chain tension is kinda important lol.
3. Ride at your own pace. Be prepared to spend 10 hours or more fro Welly to Aucks. In fact.....
4. Be prepared to overnight stop in Taupo / Tokoroa / Hamilton even if needed. If you are exhausted after 10 hours, and not at your destination.....seriously thnk about stopping and sleeping (Im guessing you have sweet dark all real riding experience - so you Will tire quickly).
5. Beware after the 1t couple of hours - getting too relaxed and attention starts to wander. Don't fixate on things, keep aware, stay Left!, and 2 second rule, and you should be fine.
6. Take a camera and enjoy the experience!

[sinfull]

i think its been geared down(4 tooth up on rear)runs same speed(new owner claims 110-120 was only old owner claiming 140)but just at higher revs as the low hp couldnt pull bike any faster in the original gearing.Explains the low economy due to higher rpm for same speed top end.

But its all just based on the info of a newer rider and the overstated, overinflated truth bender that sold it to him.

Think we'll have to wait with baited breath for the answer to that one Mossy, i think he means the old owner said it will do 140 now but the OP has only taken it up to 120 so far !

Though gearing it down would explain the fuel economy !

[FJRider]

Yup

You can see the contradiction in his quote, in one breath he's saying i get less out of my tank and more ecceleration ! Then in the next breath he's saying it has more top end !

So has it been geared up or down FJ haha

1. More acceleration ... and it's geard up ??? (that he would know)
2. Only been 115-120 ... that would be on the assumption there is no speedo error. (Usually read low)
3. 140 from a bike with "normal' gearing would give it 115 kms/hr. One big jump in increased speed ... is it a turbo ???
4. The number of teeth is usually stamped on the cog for confirmation either way ... I know which way I'd bet.
5. Aside from (possible) lies of previous owners ... if it increased fuel consumption as he has said (round town running will cause that)

[sinfull]

http://gearingcommander.com/ On a completely tech crazy side note, you guys seen this ?