So who's going to do it first?

**Lias** · 26th July 2005, 14:04

Whatever. Attack a defenseless animal when I'm around and you can call me a sick fuck, but I'll be dealing with it in the manner that most others will do as well.

I have no interest in attacking animals.. It doesnt interest or excite me, but on the flipside it doesnt upset or revolt me.. If other people want to hurt animals it doesnt phase me in the slightest, because an animal is pretty much unimportant to me.

If you haven't seen it - only do so if you have a strong stomach. I go shooting, I am used to seeing the death of small animals - and it horrified me....

Its because you have some sort of emotional attachment to the cat because your buy into the western society brainwashing that says cats are small furry animals to be loved and hugged, and not a foodstuff. I've never brought into that whole "some animals are for eating and some are for cuddling" thing, and all that video makes me wonder is if cat tastes good.

Because burning kittens is bloody horrible and pouring salt on slugs is funny

See, I just dont get either of them.. I dont find pouring salt on slugs funny, but by the same token I dont find burning kittens to be horrible.

He's actually a cool cunt in person.

Shush you'll ruin my reputation

**ManDownUnder** · 26th July 2005, 14:13

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

Its because you have some sort of emotional attachment to the cat because your buy into the western society brainwashing that says cats are small furry animals to be loved and hugged, and not a foodstuff. I've never brought into that whole "some animals are for eating and some are for cuddling" thing, and all that video makes me wonder is if cat tastes good.

No - the reason I didn't think it was appropriate is as I said - the cat wasn't dead before they proceeded to start sawing it's head off.

It's not an appropriate thing to do to any animal. Cows (which I eat) or cats (which I cuddle).

FYI I am also curious about other cultures and what they eat - have eaten some cute animals, some domesticated ones, and some wild ones.

What I eat doesn't worry me (too much) they way they're treated and killed does.

Big time

**Lias** · 26th July 2005, 14:30

They smack it over the head a few times to stun it, then hack its head off.
Crude, but not all that dissimilar to what happens when an animal goes to a abotoir.

Hell when I lived on the farm the animals didnt even get the whack on the head.. they just got their throats slit.

**onearmedbandit** · 26th July 2005, 14:40

I feel this thread is going a little off track. My initial post was regarding these two low-lifes who committed a heinous attack on two trapped animals (a crime) then not only showing no remorse, flaunted themselves in front of the camera. What will they do next? What will be done to stop them. Do not forget the main issue of this thread. A cowardly attack by two fuckwits who will mostly go unpunished.

**Phurrball** · 26th July 2005, 14:41

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

I have no interest in attacking animals.. It doesnt interest or excite me, but on the flipside it doesnt upset or revolt me.. If other people want to hurt animals it doesnt phase me in the slightest, because an animal is pretty much unimportant to me.

Its because you have some sort of emotional attachment to the cat because your buy into the western society brainwashing that says cats are small furry animals to be loved and hugged, and not a foodstuff. I've never brought into that whole "some animals are for eating and some are for cuddling" thing, and all that video makes me wonder is if cat tastes good.

See, I just dont get either of them.. I dont find pouring salt on slugs funny, but by the same token I dont find burning kittens to be horrible.

Shush you'll ruin my reputation

Try answering my criticisms...while I agree with your point re food/cuddling animals [I don't eat them personally], that has nothing to do with an act that is clearly painful to a creature that is at a scientific level a close cousin of ours. Don't come back with a subjective argument. I would no more accept someone burning a living cow than a cat, and nor should we be putting salt on slugs.

I am asuming that you agree that burning humans is horrible, so by analogy you are forced to concede that because kittens feel pain similarly to ourselves, burning kittens is horrible too...bottom line.

**Wolf** · 26th July 2005, 14:46

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

FYI I am also curious about other cultures and what they eat - have eaten some cute animals, some domesticated ones, and some wild ones.

What I eat doesn't worry me (too much) they way they're treated and killed does.

Big time

I've eaten rabbit - quite like it - and kept rabbits as pets. I wouldn't eat the pet ones, no qualms about eating a wild rabbit or the "domestic" (unnamed) ones Colvin used to breed for food.

Would not eat cat, dog or horse because of my own personal feelings about them, have friends whom I know eat dog.

Pork - prefer wild as domestic pork tastes like shit. Cattle, sheep, goat are all fine by me - unless it was my pet. Venison - now we're talking! I love venison. Have not tried ostrich or emu but would have no qualms, never even thought about kangaroo as a food stuff until this post, would probably have an open mind on that. Would also like a pet ostrich or emu because they sound like fun, I know people who keep them as pets.

I eat animals and birds of various types. I also "love animals" and have had a lot of different pets over the years. I would not countenance cruelty or inhumanity to any animal.

Yep, I've killed animals - possums, rats and rabbits for pest control - and would happily hunt for food if time permitted. I have also killed various pets out of humanity - "euthanased" or "put them down" when they have been too ill or injured to survive in comfort. I once took a dog of mine to the vet to be euthanased and the dog was so stressed out by the situation and took so long to die of an OD, struggling and fighting the vet, the next dog I had to put down I shot to spare it going through that.

I also shot a dog that was a great companion for five years and that I loved as part of the family - because she bit my young son on the face, just missing his eye, and I could not trust her not to do it again. I loved that dog, and the final act of love I performed was to make sure she died swiftly without pain.

All the times I have killed an animal I have striven to ensure the end was quick and painless. On the few occasions when my aim has been off and the first shot was not sufficient, I have felt like shit because I caused unnecessary suffering to another living creature - and that includes possums, by the way.

I'm a good shot (and when it comes to dispatching a sick or wounded animal the range is commonly called "point blank" anyway) and I work to be sure of kills.

I would not condone violence against those two boys, remorseless as they were, but I would like to see them removed from our society.

Apparently, most of the world's serial killers had a history of cruelty to animals and obsession with fire, they also felt there was no wrong in causing suffering and death - which means those boys are prime canditates to be voted Most Likely to Become a Sicko Serial Killer. I'd like to see them incarcerated for the rest of their natural lives because I don't want them roaming around out there.

**Phurrball** · 26th July 2005, 14:48

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

I feel this thread is going a little off track. My initial post was regarding these two low-lifes who committed a heinous attack on two trapped animals (a crime) then not only showing no remorse, flaunted themselves in front of the camera. What will they do next? What will be done to stop them. Do not forget the main issue of this thread. A cowardly attack by two fuckwits who will mostly go unpunished.

Unfortunately the law is precedent based. I'm pretty sure that there was a custodial sentence handed down for animal creulty a while back [Can anyone help me out here?] Only stronger rules on the books, or stronger judicial application of the current rules will send a message at the level of the justice system.

If nothing else, this will stay with the little farkers. No one likes kiddy fiddlers either, and this sort of crime seems to engender similar revulsion at a societal level.

I'm assuming they're juvenile...sadly, otherwise when they step out of line again, such a conviction would become relevant in sentencing.

**Ixion** · 26th July 2005, 15:32

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

No - the reason I didn't think it was appropriate is as I said - the cat wasn't dead before they proceeded to start sawing it's head off.

It's not an appropriate thing to do to any animal. Cows (which I eat) or cats (which I cuddle).

FYI I am also curious about other cultures and what they eat - have eaten some cute animals, some domesticated ones, and some wild ones.

What I eat doesn't worry me (too much) they way they're treated and killed does.

Big time

Dog - OK
Ostrich - big disappointment
Kangaroo - good
Snake - OK -
Rabbit - nothing odd about him, tastes good
Hare - like rabbit
Rat - Might have been OK , but I threw up.
Snail - Sort of OK I guess but I wasn't keen
Pukeko - Vile
Sparrow - OK I guess hardly worth it
Birds Nest . Can't see what the fuss is about
"Thousand year old egg" - Utterly vile
Possum. OK

Never tried cat.

**ManDownUnder** · 26th July 2005, 15:41

Originally Posted by Ixion

Dog - OK
Ostrich - big disappointment
Kangaroo - good
Snake - OK -
Rabbit - nothing odd about him, tastes good
Hare - like rabbit
Rat - Might have been OK , but I threw up.
Snail - Sort of OK I guess but I wasn't keen
Pukeko - Vile
Sparrow - OK I guess hardly worth it
Birds Nest . Can't see what the fuss is about
"Thousand year old egg" - Utterly vile
Possum. OK

Never tried cat.

Horse - coarse tender meat, tastes like they smell
Crocodile, quite nice
Ostrich - very nice (maybe the way it was cooked)
Snake, like chicken
Pigs balls - avoided... as soon as I knew what they were something in me refused to go there

**Wolf** · 26th July 2005, 16:02

Warning:

Originally Posted by Ixion

Snail - Sort of OK I guess but I wasn't keen

Sparrow - OK I guess hardly worth it
Birds Nest . Can't see what the fuss is about

Possum. OK

Snail - like eating rubber smothered in garlic butter, nothing to write home about - and the French reckon they know how to cook! Cordon Blurgh! Next time I'll put the garlic butter on bread and at least be able to chew it up in under a week.

Sparrow - WTF? I thought quail was a waste of time and effort. If the bird's smaller than a standard Tegel chicken it's not worth pissing about with. Chicken, duck and turkey are all fine, never tried Mutton Bird - have an open mind about it.

Birds Nest - never tried it. One of those many "delicacies" that rose out of famine times - when people were beginning to broil up roofing tiles in desperation for something edible. Later on when the famine is gone, the mega-rich all race out and make a delicacy of something that until recently only the ultra-poor were desperate enough to eat.

Possum - not on your nelly! Tuberculosis, Brucilosis and Leptospirosis to name but a few. My survival manual recommends autopsying the possum and checking its liver prior to attempting to eat it. As I don't have a clue what healthy and diseased livers look like, I'll be the bugger shambling around the forest looking for lots of rotting tree stumps - huhu grubs look like a safer option. Fuck it, I'd go vegetarian and eat bracken if need be.

Certain bits of animals are out of the question for me too - liver, kidney, heart, any form of offal - tripes especially and don't bother stuffing offal with grain and calling it haggis - only way I'll eat animal intestine is as the (thin) skin of a sausage.

Yeah, I know the contents of commercial sausages and mince leave a lot to be desired, but they're usually well "diluted" with stuff that doesn't taste/smell like a rendering-down works.

**Lou Girardin** · 26th July 2005, 16:31

Escargot. Mmmmmmmmmm!

**Sniper** · 26th July 2005, 16:35

No-one tried Springbok, Warthog, Kudu or Anteater or Porcupine or Meerkat?

(My folks made me eat it when we were bush in SA)

**ManDownUnder** · 26th July 2005, 16:41

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Escargot. Mmmmmmmmmm!

Would that be
"Mmmmmmmmmm!" interesting
or "Mmmmmmmmmm!" I'm thinking
or "Mmmmmmmmmm!" I have three dozen please

oh and make sure the wine keeps flowing

**Wolf** · 26th July 2005, 16:43

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Would that be
"Mmmmmmmmmm!" interesting
or "Mmmmmmmmmm!" I'm thinking
or "Mmmmmmmmmm!" I have three dozen please

oh and make sure the wine keeps flowing

Perhaps "Mmmmmmmm, garlic - too bad about the tasteless rubbery mass it's on."