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    How dare you bring facts in here Devil. Now how are we going to put ourselves in harm's way and then whinge about it when something happens!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnjackal View Post
    You sure about that?
    It's why, when lane splitting, you ought to be * on the right side of the cars, and be to the left of the lane divider paint.

    Right:
    car car car car ->
    bike ->
    --- --- --- --- ---
    car car car car ->
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    <- car
    --- --- --- --- ---
    <- car


    (* reality (i.e. car position) often means we go over the lane divider, and end up to the left of cars...

    Wrong:
    car car car car ->
    --- --- --- --- ---
    bike ->
    car car car car ->
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    <- car
    --- --- --- --- ---
    <- car

    )


    Shoulders are also off-limits. (And full of tyre stuffing stuff.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    It's why, when lane splitting, you ought to be * on the right side of the cars, and be to the left of the lane divider paint.

    Reality:
    car car
    sheep car ->
    bike -> V
    --- --- --- --- ---
    car car car car ->
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    <- car
    --- --- --- --- ---
    <- car



    Shoulders are also off-limits. (And full of tyre stuffing stuff.)

    And a $150 fine for using the "service lane" (shoulder) if you fail the attitude test.

    Lane splitting should be treated as an overtake of each individual vehicle, with correct signalling and everything. Most cops know that this is silly and will only ping you if you are a danger to yourself or others, or doing something blatantly illegal. Overtake on the right. People should be driving to the left of their lane, however we all know that they don't. So be careful. Use your indicator around cops and slow down Rossi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    And a $150 fine for using the "service lane" (shoulder) if you fail the attitude test.

    Lane splitting should be treated as an overtake of each individual vehicle, with correct signalling and everything. Most cops know that this is silly and will only ping you if you are a danger to yourself or others, or doing something blatantly illegal. Overtake on the right. People should be driving to the left of their lane, however we all know that they don't. So be careful. Use your indicator around cops and slow down Rossi.
    Yep. I see a lot of lane-splitting bikes go down the length of the motorway with their left indicator on.

    Small issue, but technically wrong.
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    OK. Anyone familiar with commuting into Wellington will know that, as you go into the Terrace Tunnel, traffic can back-up for 2kms+. Because of the way traffic merges, there’s not enough (safe) room to pass stationary cars on the right. I use the left shoulder regularly as it’s far safer. I copied this from other motorcyclists I watched do it.

    Am I supposed to sit in the traffic and pass on the right when I can?

    Who buys a motorcycle and sits in traffic? My bike really doesn't like pootling along with traffic either.

    Defies logic if you ask me…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnjackal View Post
    OK. Anyone familiar with commuting into Wellington will know that, as you go into the Terrace Tunnel, traffic can back-up for 2kms+. Because of the way traffic merges, there’s not enough (safe) room to pass stationary cars on the right. I use the left shoulder regularly as it’s far safer. I copied this from other motorcyclists I watched do it.

    Am I supposed to sit in the traffic and pass on the right when I can?

    Who buys a motorcycle and sits in traffic? My bike really doesn't like pootling along with traffic either.

    Defies logic if you ask me…..
    What's technically legal and what people actually do are two different things.

    (I've broken various laws at times, to do various things; I'd "happily" accept the fine if caught. My comments herein are just for edumacation. Just so if you get a ticket one day - you can't say you didn't know...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Overtaking on the left is illegal unless the traffic is stationary or in the process of turning right.
    Passing on the left

    You can only pass on the left when:
    there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line and you are able to pass safely by using the left-hand lane
    •you are directed to by a police officer
    •the vehicle you are passing: ◦has stopped, or
    ◦is signalling a right turn, or
    ◦is turning right.


    At all other times, when you are passing, you must pass on the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Passing on the left

    You can only pass on the left when:
    there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line and you are able to pass safely by using the left-hand lane
    •you are directed to by a police officer
    •the vehicle you are passing: ◦has stopped, or
    ◦is signalling a right turn, or
    ◦is turning right.


    At all other times, when you are passing, you must pass on the right.
    Well aware. Context was single lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Well aware. Context was single lane.
    Others were not and were questioning your statement. Hopefully well clarified now, eh?
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    Just... no.

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    The best defense is to ride the biggest badest looking bike, I once had a woman close the gap between me and a large truck in a stationary massive motorway logjam, I was lane splitting after getting the go ahead from a cop on the side of the road (I asked him) I took her front fender off with my boot and footpeg. I believe in carefully selected payback on cagers.

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